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Rich Condition or What Answered!

Joined Nov 2005
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After much effort trying to fix what seemed to be a rich condition on my 05 550 I have found some very interesting information! (carb off no less than 10 times)
The bike was only demonstrating a weak power condition on hot days. So I thought it might be the ignition or carb and found out exactly what it was. This problem must be effecting people that ride in very hot areas, so if that is you you? You might want to consider this fix. The carb is very close to the pipe and it is an issue on warm days as I got the bike up to temp and drained the fuel line that is next to the pipe as fast as possible and foud the fuel to be warm to the touch. (not good causing very hard restarts in a race) When I say close we are talking less than 3/32. On a KTM we are over an inch and that is a huge difference. No excuse Husaberg period! In the age of keeping fuel cool for best results they had to know this would be a problem! I have told two people to try this idea and each has said it was a big help and one is a Berg Mechanic. Wrap the pipe with heat cloth a few times and wire it like your grips and you will see the improvment (6inches long)
This shows that Berg is only doing the minimum to keep the name alive as this is not rocket sience for an enginer. Please do not tell me it was jetted rich to begin with as I am well schooled on jetting and that was not it. After two or three wraps it is hitting the brass part of the fuel line so can you imagine the heat transfer? It is not the valves or some other thing you might think, but the fact that the fuel was hot to the touch.
Shame on Husaberg for a terible design that close to the pipe. After almost having a heart attack trying to restart in a 98 degree race I became determined to find out what the hell the problem was and I did. Now you try it and see the improvment. I think people riding in hot areas are likely to benifit, but who knows with a gas line the thickness of a quarter away from a screeming hot pipe?
 
Anything that gives a 6" improvement can only be good :D :D . But on a serious note, I have often woundered about the carb clearance, but personnally have not had an issue with it, but your point is very valid. In Husabergs defence, how many 98degree races are held in sweeden?
 
I guess one way to test the theory would be to shut off the one petcock. I would think that by the time the fuel mixed with the fuel from the other petcock the fuel temp would be reasonable.
 
Heat Issue

The carb housing was even hot so I think the fuel is being cooked in some conditions. I think even on cool days in slow moving difficult riding it will help with some of the stalling issues as well. It might even prevent a fire as my friends fuel line was cracking after only a year or so of use. Well worth the piece of mind on a bike that cost so much. My bike is running so strong now all I can say is it should not have taken me so long to figure this out. I got focused on the ignition as this was a problem on the older bergs.
Good Luck -- it has worked for three guys in Nevada--
 
Sure!

Yes I am happy but Husaberg needs to step up and start doing real r&d work. I am not an enginer but have about 35 years of riding and turning a wrench and most of the buying public will not find this kind of thing out, left to their own. My problems on my 01 470 must have been related to this problem as it had all the same issues. That said it has still not been addressed for the past six years. That is not cutting edge development!
It has been known for at least 15 years that hot fuel is a problem and placing a fuel line that close did not go unnoticed. For so many years proves my point!
No real R&D going on at Berg or KTM is holding them back for some reason.
The product must improve each year to stay viable. If they think changing the stickers each year will help then they need a new marketing department. The old saying of grow or go comes to mind. My friend purchased a 02 Berg and had this problem in slow hard trail riding and sold it at a big loss and said never again!
 
RE: Sure!

I would say that the cure could be applyed to older model bergs as well. Heat can do strange things to the way a bike runs. Question would a heat shield work?
 
This is what Ford did to his,

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I wrapped my pipe to keep my pants from melting as well as insulating the carb.
Your right Mark, not the best design.
 
i did the same thing on my 02 501fe. i didn't have a problem.but thought pipe was to close also. i used header rap i had left over from car racing stuff.
bike runs fine, and starts hot or cold on e-button. you were right on with this fix--
bergman501
 
You Sir are correct!

With a bit of machine work and fabrication one may simply relocate the fuel inlet elbow to the right side of the carburetor.

I have done several in such fashion.

Dale
 

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