Rekluse clutches

Taffy · Mar 25, 2005

yes but which part? my sheets from last july (the early model) say nothing of putting in and withdrawing ball bearings.

there is the slack to take up and then there is the bite and grip to go. which do the taking out of the BB help?

i can't believe how easy it is to find neutral, to kickstart and to glide ot a halt etc. but i think i'll need to make both sharper even though the sheets recommend both are slack....

did you fit a a washer behind the spring?

regards

Taffy

berger · Mar 25, 2005

On the 04 it uses the KTM style clutch,so I'm not exactly sure what came in your kit. I ended up using a washer and 2 springs. There was a separate piece of paper that said to use 20 carbide balls with the 650. The 20 balls did not work for me, I had to drop it down to the original 15 recommended carbide balls.

Taffy · Mar 26, 2005

do any of the british lads know best price on braided brake lines?

berger

what was the difference you got going from 20 down to 15?

eary/late engagement?
quick/slow take up?

regards

Taffy

berger · Mar 26, 2005

20 would overcenter the pressure plate at high rpm and the balls would stick. That would leave the clutch engaged all the time....no good whatsoever.

Taffy · Mar 27, 2005

i'm racing this next weekend. how do i check for this if it seemed to go ok on my first run?

Taffy

Gix · Mar 27, 2005

Taffy, I don't know what year bike you've got but my 04 has a rekluse.. Ever since fitting it , it has has a very minor clutch drag when stationery, I have tried different oil which did help, but I will be experimenting with different springs etc. I do have all instructions that came with mine which I can photocopy for you should you want em.

I went for a bar mounted back brake conversion and yes you do have to run synthetic...mine popped its seals last night and I was racing this morning...Grr..bloody long night in the garage converting back.
I used the standard berg clutch line and got a hydraulics company to make me up a goodridge hose with connectors. Its the connectors that cost the money

Word of advice though....run it for a few outings with no clutch lever first to get you used to it....then convert to brake...you will still end up pulling it when changing gear but not as much :shock:

LINEAWEAVER · Mar 27, 2005

Hi Taffy,
I used "Kevlar" brake line purchased from a bicycle shop. Said line is no larger than a cable and works great as a means to apply the rear brake via an OEM (Magura) clutch cylinder. I retained the foot brake as well.

I have been using DOT 3 fluid for several months without incident.

One has the option of using carbide and / or steel balls, various spring combinations and pressure plate gap as a means of adjustment. For our race application I used an engagement rpm of near 3500 (quite high) with complete OEM clamping force in by 5500.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,
Dale

ps
The Rekluse clutch has worked Fantastic with new specification (big moly scandal) DELO 400.

Taffy · Mar 27, 2005

i'm not running a revcounter mr lineweaver but it's a lovely thought 8O 8O ISYKWIM!!!

valuable help as usual.

regards

mr L

Taffy

berger · Mar 27, 2005

Taffy,run the bike WFO a few times and you will know if the balls will stick or not.
Gix, What spring and ball set up are you using? I was able to get all the creep out of mine eventually. It did take several combinations to finnally nail it down. With the 04 it only takes 10-15 minutes to change configurations.

Chas · Mar 27, 2005

LINEAWEAVER said:
Hi Taffy,
I used "Kevlar" brake line purchased from a bicycle shop. Said line is no larger than a cable and works great as a means to apply the rear brake via an OEM (Magura) clutch cylinder. I retained the foot brake as well.

I have been using DOT 3 fluid for several months without incident.

Dale,
How did you accomplish retaining the foot brake along with the hand brake?? Did you add a second caliper to the rear rotor for two independent systems, or? Also, I was under the impression that the seals, etc of the mineral oil Magura master cylinders were not compatible with standard brake fluid and that silicone based 5.0 brake fluid was a better choice.

Gix · Mar 28, 2005

berger said:
Taffy,run the bike WFO a few times and you will know if the balls will stick or not.
Gix, What spring and ball set up are you using? I was able to get all the creep out of mine eventually. It did take several combinations to finnally nail it down. With the 04 it only takes 10-15 minutes to change configurations.

Hi berger...
I'm using the exact set up as per instructions...I've not experimented yet but will do this week. My install gap is as per optimal in the instructions, but was planning on trying a standard berg steel plate in place of one of the rekluse ones.
my biting point is pretty much immediate and the clutch is not slipping at all..
will happily try out your recommendations though if you put them on here

Main problem I have is actually testing the set up as bike is no longet road legal and only time it goes out is at raceday

Taffy · Mar 28, 2005

gix

have you had to fit both the 2" and the 1.5" wave springs?

Taffy

LINEAWEAVER · Mar 28, 2005

Chas said:
Dale,
How did you accomplish retaining the foot brake along with the hand brake?? Did you add a second caliper to the rear rotor for two independent systems, or? Also, I was under the impression that the seals, etc of the mineral oil Magura master cylinders were not compatible with standard brake fluid and that silicone based 5.0 brake fluid was a better choice.

Hi Chas,
I used a sleeve which bypasses the rear brake caliper resevoir turning the OEM clutch master cylinder resevoir into a dual duty unit. Al (Rekluse) and I obviously think alike as said sleeve is part of the Rekluse rear brake kit that is now available. Said kit is a bargain as the components are CNC manufactured as opposed to that of being made (like me) one @ a time. I have since purchased several such items from Al and am now also a Rekluse dealer.

Since our Honda has Nissan brakes which requires Dot fluid and the Magura master calls for mineral oil I opted to experiment with the Magura hardware. Said system has been installed and functional for well over three months without incident. Such is not to say that when I disassemble the Magura unit that the seals will not be swollen. Just the same I knew well in advance that using mineral oil in the Nissan components spelled certain disaster. Having an abundance of Magura hardware made the experiment feasible.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,
Dale

jmumme · Mar 28, 2005

Ouch!
$1250 for a revloc and $529 for a rekluse..
What's the difference?
John

LINEAWEAVER · Mar 28, 2005

jmumme said:
Ouch!
$1250 for a revloc and $529 for a rekluse..
What's the difference?
John

Profit margin!

Honestly,
I personally prefer the Rekluse for its simplicity.

Dale

Gix · Mar 28, 2005

Taffy said:
gix

have you had to fit both the 2" and the 1.5" wave springs?

Taffy

Nope, was gonna be my first experiment this week (cos its the easiest).
Is that how you run yours ?

Gix · Mar 28, 2005

Dale,

Are these sleaves available to buy?

I wanted to keep both brakes if possible.

do you not experience fluid forcing its way down the opposing line when using either lever ?

LINEAWEAVER · Mar 28, 2005

Gix said:
Dale,

Are these sleaves available to buy?

I wanted to keep both brakes if possible.

do you not experience fluid forcing its way down the opposing line when using either lever ?

A slight pressure increase is associated in either pedal / lever while applying the other. the Sleeves are part of the "Rekluse" kit. I do not believe said sleeve is offered as a single unit, however, the entire kit is well worth the minimal investment.

Sincerely,
Dale

ProSM · Mar 29, 2005

Gix said:
Dale,

Are these sleaves available to buy?

I wanted to keep both brakes if possible.

do you not experience fluid forcing its way down the opposing line when using either lever ?

yes you do Gix - if your at Topcliffe grab a hold of Pete's CRF which is now fitted with the dual brake kit - you can feel the pressure from the foot brake through the lever, and vice versa. Best thing is to ride it and see for your self. Rob.

Taffy · Mar 30, 2005

i've settled on a Ã‚Â£29 inclusive brake pipe that i know won't be turned away at scrutineering (sorry dale-wasn't sure!).

my only experience of all this is that i green laned an FE550e w/ rekluse in Moab for a day thanks to berger. i was 'used to it' in 50 yards. i never once found it not to be better.

i then spent the next three days thinking when i'd like to have a clutch lever at all to override it and i couldn't think of one that can't be done by 'cogging down 1 and/or leaning back'.

i then had to think about the brake and again i can't think why i would use my foot when i have a free hand!

i'm racing on sunday and as long as i haven't set it up wrong w/o this 1.5" wave spring i look forward to being faster with a rekluse AND left-bar-rear-brake set up.

there! now i've said it!

there's so much that isn't fettled about this at the moment. at least with it being a time card event i will have 10-15 minutes at the end of the first two stints.

here goes!!!!

Taffy

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