This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Rekluse and Cush drive questions

V

vwhusaberg

Joined Oct 2008
59 Posts | 0+
Sarnia, Ontario, Canada
A few of you have mentioned on here that a Rekluse is unsuitable for Supermoto. Why is that? It seems to me that a Rekluse would disengage when you close the throttle, giving you absolutely no engine braking. Isn't that a good thing? A left handlebar mounted rear brake could be modulated to slide the rear if needed. Am I missing something here?

Also, my wheels have no cush drive at all. What are the benefits of a cush drive? Am I risking damage to my trans, or is it more of a performance thing?
 
hi ray,
To make my answer short: An auto clutch helps you at acceleration;
the slipper-clutch helps you at deceleration.
The rekluse only disengages when the rpm´s go down to idle level.
engine braking with a rekluse/autoclutch is therefor the same as with a standard clutch.
The only advantage is that you don´t need the clutch lever to get off the line.

the cush drive makes the life of your gear-box easier, especially at throttle changes, as it dampens the maximum-loads (with rubber blocks)
because of loosing the direct connection to your rear wheel, you won´t find any race-bike using a cush-drive.

If your first goal is lifetime of your tranny, get one (eg. from a LC4).
If your serious about racing....

peter
 
Ok, so it seems the main advantages of the Rekluse in Supermoto are consistent starts and less stalling in the dirt section (for me anyway). Might be worth a try...I can't think of any real disadvantages, except that I wouldn't have the option of using a slipper clutch simultaneously.
 
the disadvantage is that the take up is smooth and slightly like slipping the clutch. so there will be wear to keep an eye on. you can set it up for maximum take up and maxrevs without stalling though. you just can't pop the front wheel with the rekluse. if i come to a log - i'm bolloxed. othe than that they're great! how good it'll be on the downshift? same as manual clutch i think.

regards

Taffy
 
Glad to see you're still using it Taffy. I was just reading about the issues you had wiith initial set up. Hopefully they've fine-tuned the kit since then.
 
I had a Rekulse on my KTM250SXF I used for enduros, down shifting into corners it was great, removed all the rear wheel chatter just lke a slipper does. Also it made traction up snotty hills and through bogs so easy, off road at least it makes a bike much easier to ride and less energy demanding. Others I have spoken to re Rekluse's offroad all comment on the slipper clutch style attributes when downshifting.

I am now considering one to use on my 570 for rallyes
 
Taffy said:
the disadvantage is that the take up is smooth and slightly like slipping the clutch. so there will be wear to keep an eye on. you can set it up for maximum take up and maxrevs without stalling though. you just can't pop the front wheel with the rekluse. if i come to a log - i'm bolloxed. othe than that they're great! how good it'll be on the downshift? same as manual clutch i think.

regards

Taffy
Click to expand...

Taffy,
You should be able to pop the front up easy on the 400.
Put a few TC balls in there to get a harder engagement rate, that will make the clutch lock up quick and be snappier off throttle for those logs.
It'll still work fine in the technical stuff and prolong clutch life.

Cheers,
Nick
 
i don't make enough power down there! there isn't really a 'hit' with the 400.

i don't think you can compare banging the clutch at high revs and snapping the throttle at 5mph anyway - but i hear you!

regards

Taffy
 
I was checking out the Rekluse Z-Start PRO and it has the ability to have full manual overide, that would give you the ability to clutch it when you come accross obstacles. The original Z-start did not have this ability. The PRO version is more than double the price but may be a better option ?
I'm thinking about the Pro version myself. But at around $700 I want to be sure first.
 
Your bike must be newer than mine. I see the Pro is only available for 2004 and up. What city are you in?
 
PM Sutto. He is the Australian importer of Rekluse, and is Australias oldest Berg Dealer. Pretty handy combo if you ask me.
 
vwhusaberg said:
Your bike must be newer than mine. I see the Pro is only available for 2004 and up. What city are you in?
Click to expand...
If you can´t fit the "Pro" to your bike then forget the Rekluse for supermoto.The manual clutch override really sucks at high rpm on the original Rekluse making downshifts much harder compared to the manual clutch.Go for a slipper clutch instead.
 
I wasn't going to use the manual clutch override, I was going to connect the clutch lever to my rear brake. I guess you're saying that just banging downshifts with the rekluse engaged will upset the chassis. I guess if it doesn't provide any slip when off the throttle, that could be a problem.
 
i can tell you that if you're banging down through the box even reasonably quickly (not racing), the engine will stay locked to the clutch. it's only at 5mph in first with the revs dying, dying, dying that it lets go.

regards

Taffy
 
vwhusaberg said:
I wasn't going to use the manual clutch override, I was going to connect the clutch lever to my rear brake. I guess you're saying that just banging downshifts with the rekluse engaged will upset the chassis. I guess if it doesn't provide any slip when off the throttle, that could be a problem.
Click to expand...
The Rekluse does not disengage just by closing the throttle wich makes it really hard to downshift on tarmac.You can do a testrun with your stock clutch running in fifth gear and just brake and bang it down to third not using the clutch and see what happens.And without a clutch override you cant`t control the slide caused by the engine braking either.
 
Ya, I see where you're coming from. So when you say that the manual override really sucks on the original Rekluse...what do you mean? Does it not always disengage properly when the lever is pulled in? Is it hard to modulate? Could it be an adjustment problem?
It does sound like I would have to leave the clutch lever on, but I would need it to actually work (and they don't make the Pro for the older Bergs).
 
vwhusaberg said:
So when you say that the manual override really sucks on the original Rekluse...what do you mean? Does it not always disengage properly when the lever is pulled in?
Click to expand...
No,not at high rpm:s
 

Similar threads

A
'11 FE570 compatibility with Duke 640 rear wheel
Replies
3
Views
512
abc
A
2ndGen
570 longevity question...
Replies
6
Views
2K
2ndGen
2ndGen
Taffy
New - improved carb needle 2004-2008
Replies
3
Views
2K
FlyingZebra
FlyingZebra
B
2nd set of wheels 21/18 or 17/17?
Replies
1
Views
2K
Rainerio
Rainerio
D
For Trade For sale or trade in Souhern California 2010 FE450
Replies
1
Views
1K
dhawkins
D

Register CTA

Register on Husaberg Forum! This sidebar will go away, and you will see fewer ads.

Recent Discussions

Recent Discussions