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Your link is an Amsoil website featuring the Tuttles. No further explanation should be required. :)

Dale[/b][/quote]


What are the Tuttles? I found this info, while doing research online comparing oils !!
 
pc2mac said:
Your link is an Amsoil website featuring the Tuttles. No further explanation should be required. :)

Dale[/b]


What are the Tuttles? I found this info, while doing research online comparing oils !!

Orange County Choppers "Neanderthals".

Dale

 
LINEAWEAVER said:
pc2mac said:
Your link is an Amsoil website featuring the Tuttles. No further explanation should be required. :)

Dale[/b]


What are the Tuttles? I found this info, while doing research online comparing oils !!

Orange County Choppers "Neanderthals".

Dale


Oooooh !! Well I was merely concerned about test results
( Raw Data ), not what famous or infamous folks pictures were displayed on the website.
 
So am I reading this thread right - that the new Delo 400LE is NOT suitable or recommended for use in a Husaberg? I just picked up a jug and am thinking I should return it for the Shell Rotella T (if that's still suitable)?!

Thanks for any clarification.
Brian
 
velosapiens said:
pc2mac said:
In 1981 I took the advice of a friend and used Castrol GTX for high revving motors it said on the can, and used it in my Harley in lieu of the 60w Harley Oil I was running, and took my bike on the Redwood run from Stockton, CA to Eureka, CA and back, and it foamed up like A&W root beer, and I lost my rod bearings on the way home. Just my 2 cents.

so, you're blaming a failure on one of the most unreliable motorcycles ever built (except maybe a kx250f) on the oil? hmmmmmmmmm

The bike had low miles and was well maintained, I was the 2nd owner and purchased it with 3k miles on it. With all due respect, I don't think oil is supposed to look like dark brown root beer foam !! But I would welcome any pofessional opinions, to the contrary :)
 
motobando said:
So am I reading this thread right - that the new Delo 400LE is NOT suitable or recommended for use in a Husaberg? I just picked up a jug and am thinking I should return it for the Shell Rotella T (if that's still suitable)?!

Thanks for any clarification.
Brian

Both oils have been reformulated.

Use a high end "Race Only" and / or known quality motorcycle specific oil.

The other option is to purchase DELO 400 in bulk.

Dale
 
pc2mac said:
LINEAWEAVER said:
pc2mac said:
Your link is an Amsoil website featuring the Tuttles. No further explanation should be required. :)

Dale[/b]


What are the Tuttles? I found this info, while doing research online comparing oils !!

Orange County Choppers "Neanderthals".

Dale


Oooooh !! Well I was merely concerned about test results
( Raw Data ), not what famous or infamous folks pictures were displayed on the website.

With all due respect my point is:
You are not receiving accurate data. You are simply viewing another commercial.

Dale
 
LINEAWEAVER said:
pc2mac said:
LINEAWEAVER said:
pc2mac said:
Your link is an Amsoil website featuring the Tuttles. No further explanation should be required. :)

Dale[/b]


What are the Tuttles? I found this info, while doing research online comparing oils !!

Orange County Choppers "Neanderthals".

Dale


Oooooh !! Well I was merely concerned about test results
( Raw Data ), not what famous or infamous folks pictures were displayed on the website.

With all due respect my point is:
You are not receiving accurate data. You are simply viewing another commercial.

Dale


Here are some tests based on ASTM testing standards instead of commercials:

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf

I am just looking for the best bang for the buck,the best oil I can find without paying extra due to expensive advertising or hype. I drive a Toyota Tundra because I feel it is the best value, my wife drives a Volvo S70 SE, because it is safe and reliable. I drove GM till the early 80's when I bought a Toyota, and we all know what GM's were like back then, the Chevy Citation etc. And I use a Mac aka Apple PC for the same reason, the best value well built yada, yada.
I don't buy based on what my Dad always used, or because my family works for a company etc. I choose to make my decisions based on facts, and recommendations by unbiased professionals, not
paid advertisements. I learned my lesson big time $$ with the GTX fiasco, it cost me a few thousand completely rebuild my Harley, back
in 1981. And I did alot of the work myself.
 
pc2mac said:
LINEAWEAVER said:
pc2mac said:
LINEAWEAVER said:
pc2mac said:
Your link is an Amsoil website featuring the Tuttles. No further explanation should be required. :)

Dale[/b]


What are the Tuttles? I found this info, while doing research online comparing oils !!

Orange County Choppers "Neanderthals".

Dale


Oooooh !! Well I was merely concerned about test results
( Raw Data ), not what famous or infamous folks pictures were displayed on the website.

With all due respect my point is:
You are not receiving accurate data. You are simply viewing another commercial.

Dale


Here are some tests based on ASTM testing standards instead of commercials:

http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf

You can purchase a copy of the original document direct from ASTM (as opposed to doctored versions). The cost is around $50.00 and well worth the investment.

http://www.astm.org/cgi-bin/SoftCart.ex ... 1176178596

What is it you are looking for in an oil? What are you comparing and why? Perhaps I can help answer some of your questions.


Dale
 
LINEAWEAVER said:
pc2mac said:
LINEAWEAVER said:
pc2mac said:
LINEAWEAVER said:
http://www.amsoil.com/lit/g2156.pdf[/url]

You can purchase a copy of the original document direct from ASTM (as opposed to doctored versions). The cost is around $50.00 and well worth the investment.

http://www.astm.org/cgi-bin/SoftCart.ex ... 1176178596

What is it you are looking for in an oil? What are you comparing and why? Perhaps I can help answer some of your questions.


Dale
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Preferably the best oil made, without paying more than need be due to hype, expensive sponsorships or advertising costs. So my Husaberg will run the best and last as long as possible. I just switched my wife's Volvo over to Amsoil and I could literally noitice the difference right away, my wife even noticed a difference !
 
To date Shell and DELO fleet dual oils are particularly well suited for maximum protection under extreme conditions.

Synthetics have an advantage regarding extreme temperatures. IE sub freezing and / or continuous plus 300 degrees Fahrenheit (air cooled performance engines) operation.

The EP package and total base value of "Fleet" dual oils is a blessing to Husaberg.

Hope this helps.

Dale
 
LINEAWEAVER said:
To date Shell and DELO fleet dual oils are particularly well suited for maximum protection under extreme conditions.

Synthetics have an advantage regarding extreme temperatures. IE sub freezing and / or continuous plus 300 degrees Fahrenheit (air cooled performance engines) operation.

The EP package and total base value of "Fleet" dual oils is a blessing to Husaberg.

Hope this helps.

Dale

As you may have already ascertained, my objective here, is not to engage in any type of my oil is better than your oil contraversy, but to find the best oil for the $$ I will gladly continue pay $13 per liter for Motorex Power Synt 4t 10w/50, if it is the best oil I can run, rather than pay $2 for something that tests out near the bottom of the spectrum. Like I said before, I still remember my expensive GTX lesson from the school of hard knocks, when I blew my Harley motor in 1981.

You appear to be very knowledgeable regarding lubricants. I live in Las Vegas, NV which gets very hot, and my Husaberg manual only recommends, 5w/50 or 10w/50 and I know that the lower value is important in much colder climates, but from what I understand in hot weather 15w/50 or 20w/50 would be suitable, but I was advised against 10w/40 or anything lower than a /50 as the hot weather approaches !!
 
pc2mac said:
LINEAWEAVER said:
To date Shell and DELO fleet dual oils are particularly well suited for maximum protection under extreme conditions.

Synthetics have an advantage regarding extreme temperatures. IE sub freezing and / or continuous plus 300 degrees Fahrenheit (air cooled performance engines) operation.

The EP package and total base value of "Fleet" dual oils is a blessing to Husaberg.

Hope this helps.

Dale

As you may have already ascertained, my objective here, is not to engage in any type of my oil is better than your oil contraversy, but to find the best oil for the $$ I will gladly continue pay $13 per liter for Motorex Power Synt 4t 10w/50, if it is the best oil I can run, rather than pay $2 for something that tests out near the bottom of the spectrum. Like I said before, I still remember my expensive GTX lesson from the school of hard knocks, when I blew my Harley motor in 1981.

You appear to be very knowledgeable regarding lubricants. I live in Las Vegas, NV which gets very hot, and my Husaberg manual only recommends, 5w/50 or 10w/50 and I know that the lower value is important in much colder climates, but from what I understand in hot weather 15w/50 or 20w/50 would be suitable, but I was advised against 10w/40 or anything lower than a /50 as the hot weather approaches !!

Regarding Multi-grade oils:
Shear stability, TBN and EP package are the big three for a water cooled engine.

A quality 15-40 is more than suitable as you will be hard pressed to get the sump oil temperature to exceed 250 degrees Fahrenheit.

MPG and emissions have more to do with OE oil recommendations than engine longevity.

Same holds true for the engines "as delivered" state of tune.

Cheers,
Dale
 
So Amsoil is no good?
Thats what I used in my 05 650 5000kms and it done a big end is that the oil that caused it or my riding style? I changed oil every 500kms and Filter every other.
Only trail ride it.
What do you recommend we use here in Australia then?
 
Steve,
Perhaps we will have that Delo discussion at Louee after all !!!!
Cheers
Garry
 
We may well have to revisit the oil discussion. I'm not aware that the Delo 400 we get here in Oz has changed but I guess its time to get some confirmation. I'll see what info I can come up with from Caltex.

Steve
 
For what it is worth I am now using Castrol RX Super, stupid ? maybe but it is roughly the equivalent of the Delo so I guess the proof will be in the proverbial hey.
I drop the oil after each ride ( around 3hr intervals on average) and it doesnt cost the bank to do it. I was previously using Motul @ $13/ L and had my fair share of problems for one reason or another, had no worries since going to the cheap alternative but.... only done 10hrs so early days yet.
If it hasnt died from wrong oil choice we can talk about that at Louee too

Mick
 
delo 400, Rotella, Mobil 1

faktor said:
So Amsoil is no good?
Thats what I used in my 05 650 5000kms and it done a big end is that the oil that caused it or my riding style? I changed oil every 500kms and Filter every other.
Only trail ride it.
What do you recommend we use here in Australia then?


Here is a comparison with Delo 400, and Shell Rotella T. as well as a Mobil 1 compare link below. And one thing I know is, if this info was false, lawsuits would be levied. Here in the U.S. people will sue at the drop of a hat. And I have not noticed other oil brands, posting head to head tests on their sites thus far.

And I actually called the technical dept. at Amsoil 715-399-TECH (8324) ,They told me if an engine fails using their oil, contact them to arrange sending in the oil for lab analysis, and if it was due to their oil failing, they will cover the engine replacement costs.
http://www.amsoil.com/warranty.aspx

Hopefully this info will assist others in making an informed decision when choosing which oil to use. And by the way, none of these links, or sites are mine, I am not posting a commercial here to increase my bottom line. But personally I don't see how I could possibly go wrong using their oil in my Berg!! :)

http://www.performanceoiltechnology.com ... ummins.htm

http://www.synthetic-motor-oil-change-a ... esults.php
 

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