Joined Jun 2001
1K Posts | 3+
Berkshire, England
Hey Cypriot,
The 5" will fit but with a squeeze - sometimes a frustrating one!
Frustrating because it depends more on your tyre choice - and SM Michelin slick, no probs, a 165 Dunlop wet a real fiddle, an 160 Avon Distanza a pain in the arse, a Michelin 16 wet a struggle - you probably get my point :wink:
The 5" is a good investment depite a sometimes fiddly fitting and the chain will always clear the tyre, which is good.
Cheers,
Simon
The 5" will fit but with a squeeze - sometimes a frustrating one!
Frustrating because it depends more on your tyre choice - and SM Michelin slick, no probs, a 165 Dunlop wet a real fiddle, an 160 Avon Distanza a pain in the arse, a Michelin 16 wet a struggle - you probably get my point :wink:
The 5" is a good investment depite a sometimes fiddly fitting and the chain will always clear the tyre, which is good.
Cheers,
Simon
Joined Jun 2001
1K Posts | 3+
Berkshire, England
Hey Cypriot,
On many SM conversions, especially the jap 450s, the chain rubs on the edge of tyre, chewing away the outer edge. On Husas you don't get this problem.
I haven't tried the Pirellis but in case you're wondering, it is only the fitting of the wheels onto the bike that's a problem. Once they're fitted it's fine. You may also have to remove the chain guard if you have one, by the way.
Hope this helps,
Simon
On many SM conversions, especially the jap 450s, the chain rubs on the edge of tyre, chewing away the outer edge. On Husas you don't get this problem.
I haven't tried the Pirellis but in case you're wondering, it is only the fitting of the wheels onto the bike that's a problem. Once they're fitted it's fine. You may also have to remove the chain guard if you have one, by the way.
Hope this helps,
Simon
Joined Aug 2006
7 Posts | 0+
Liverpool UK
There is a crf450 at the local SM track that has an EXTREMELY chewed up rear tyre from the chain. IT doesn't seem to effect the surface of the tyre too greatly, just the side.
There is another one there that has no problems, but he has a spacer setting the wheel slightly off centre.
Neither is great, the chewed up on will end up getting whatever loob you have on your chain on the tyre, not great when you are on the ragged edge! and the other basically makes your bike wonky... :?
But then I guess they are HONDA's!
There is another one there that has no problems, but he has a spacer setting the wheel slightly off centre.
Neither is great, the chewed up on will end up getting whatever loob you have on your chain on the tyre, not great when you are on the ragged edge! and the other basically makes your bike wonky... :?
But then I guess they are HONDA's!
Joined Aug 2006
24 Posts | 0+
Thank you fellas for your interest.
I know the problem with the tyre edge. in 2004 I has a KTM 640 Adventure 2004 model and I put 4.5 inches rear rim 150/60 tyre. I had this problem and I put the wheel off side to the left. it was ok but in anyway, it's not nice to see a tyre edge destroyed.
Just another one question if you can help.
I will put 320mm front disk with the excisting brembo 2 piston caliper (we are talking for FE550S force bike) and the adaptor for this disk. do you beleive that the brakes will be sufficient for the bike now in the road????
Thanks Marios
I know the problem with the tyre edge. in 2004 I has a KTM 640 Adventure 2004 model and I put 4.5 inches rear rim 150/60 tyre. I had this problem and I put the wheel off side to the left. it was ok but in anyway, it's not nice to see a tyre edge destroyed.
Just another one question if you can help.
I will put 320mm front disk with the excisting brembo 2 piston caliper (we are talking for FE550S force bike) and the adaptor for this disk. do you beleive that the brakes will be sufficient for the bike now in the road????
Thanks Marios
Joined Aug 2006
7 Posts | 0+
Liverpool UK
if you upgrade the caliper then you will also need to upgrade the master cylinder to move the greater amount of liquid a 6 pot requires to activate to get the most from it.
A bigger disc does not particularly make a more powerful front brake nessisary, the idea is that they allow more surface area(circumference SP?) to disipate the heat better, therefore reducing brake fade.
a two pot will work exactly the same on the new disc as it did on the old one (once it is bedded in)
A 6 pot will improve braking, however it could work out quite expensive once u add it all up.
A bigger disc does not particularly make a more powerful front brake nessisary, the idea is that they allow more surface area(circumference SP?) to disipate the heat better, therefore reducing brake fade.
a two pot will work exactly the same on the new disc as it did on the old one (once it is bedded in)
A 6 pot will improve braking, however it could work out quite expensive once u add it all up.
Joined Jun 2001
1K Posts | 3+
Berkshire, England
Hey Cypriot,
If I were you, I would try out your 2-pot with the larger disk before buying the whole brake caboodle. I've known several people who ran 2-pots on larger disks quite successfully, even on the race track. The problem I have seen, largely depending on the brake disk used is that the sweep (the surface area of friction on the disk) of the pads on the 2-pot is less than the sweep of the 4-pot pads. And this makes sense because the "friction" area of the smaller dirt disk is also smaller than on a road biased disk.
Because of this, you will have slightly less braking efficiency and somewhat more heat than a full road setup (e.g. 4 or 6-pot caliper) but with some of the newer brake fluids you can avoid brake fade for a long time and once you do, then upgrade your brakes. I think you might be surprised about how much you can get away with. When you do upgrade, I would seriously suggest you consider the 4-pot beringer as an alternative to the 6-pot too.
Hope this helps,
Simon
If I were you, I would try out your 2-pot with the larger disk before buying the whole brake caboodle. I've known several people who ran 2-pots on larger disks quite successfully, even on the race track. The problem I have seen, largely depending on the brake disk used is that the sweep (the surface area of friction on the disk) of the pads on the 2-pot is less than the sweep of the 4-pot pads. And this makes sense because the "friction" area of the smaller dirt disk is also smaller than on a road biased disk.
Because of this, you will have slightly less braking efficiency and somewhat more heat than a full road setup (e.g. 4 or 6-pot caliper) but with some of the newer brake fluids you can avoid brake fade for a long time and once you do, then upgrade your brakes. I think you might be surprised about how much you can get away with. When you do upgrade, I would seriously suggest you consider the 4-pot beringer as an alternative to the 6-pot too.
Hope this helps,
Simon
Joined Aug 2006
24 Posts | 0+
Simon,
The excisting brakes (brembo 4-pot) are quite good although the disk is 260mm. I will puit first the 320mm disk and then i will see. the problem with the 4-pot Beringer is that i have to change also the brackets on the front fork as the 4pot Beringer used by 2005 model, is radial!
In anyway, I will see. I have spare also the brake pump of one LC4 2004 model and if the brakes are not sufficient, i will change the brake pump anf the i will go to the caliper. I will send you a photo when the bike is ready. I have also a ducati 998S but the husaberg has much more fun.
See you soon. Stay tuned to answer my questions dude
The excisting brakes (brembo 4-pot) are quite good although the disk is 260mm. I will puit first the 320mm disk and then i will see. the problem with the 4-pot Beringer is that i have to change also the brackets on the front fork as the 4pot Beringer used by 2005 model, is radial!
In anyway, I will see. I have spare also the brake pump of one LC4 2004 model and if the brakes are not sufficient, i will change the brake pump anf the i will go to the caliper. I will send you a photo when the bike is ready. I have also a ducati 998S but the husaberg has much more fun.
See you soon. Stay tuned to answer my questions dude
on the my 550 05' wheel arriere are one 5"of origin and I put one 5.5", the disc brake front is 310mm beringer.
on one 650 04' I assembled one 5.5"and its assembles itself without problem
et une préparation suspention
excuse me for the size of the photographs
on one 650 04' I assembled one 5.5"and its assembles itself without problem
et une préparation suspention
excuse me for the size of the photographs
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