ok three different spark plugs, clean carb, seems to be getting fuel and seems to have spark have tried all day to start it no joy im tempted to put it on ebay, ran awsome just a couple of weeks ago
check the tiiming, decompression, spark plug gap, air filter.
how fresh is the fuel? It can be manotonouse but hang in ther dude she'll go eventually and when your cruising at mach 2 down the trail you'll forget all the hassles.............til it stops.
how fresh is the fuel? It can be manotonouse but hang in ther dude she'll go eventually and when your cruising at mach 2 down the trail you'll forget all the hassles.............til it stops.
Joined May 2002
154 Posts | 0+
LODI, CA.
Have you worked on anything since it last ran? Did it just die on you one day? Does it even act like it "wants" to start?
When my SEM went out, one of the first things I checked was spark - for whatever reason I thought it had and continued along with the other check points. Finally after no success I checked the spark again and realized there was none :x
After changing the stator it ran fine.
What is the old saying? If all the necessary conditions exist, it has to run, it has no choice
When my SEM went out, one of the first things I checked was spark - for whatever reason I thought it had and continued along with the other check points. Finally after no success I checked the spark again and realized there was none :x
After changing the stator it ran fine.
What is the old saying? If all the necessary conditions exist, it has to run, it has no choice
Joined Jul 2001
3K Posts | 1+
El Sobrante, Ca. 94803
ok so i know there is spark went out again to check used the ol rubber handle screw driver touching the end of the plug kick through and spark. drained the flot bowl and started over with your suggestions
is it possible for it to get too much fuel?
im not too mechanicle so i need dumb terms
is it possible for it to get too much fuel?
im not too mechanicle so i need dumb terms
Joined Jul 2001
3K Posts | 1+
El Sobrante, Ca. 94803
Yes, the engine can indeed receive too much fuel.
Is the plug wet with fuel after kicking?
Is the fuel odor strong as in flooded?
Dale
Is the plug wet with fuel after kicking?
Is the fuel odor strong as in flooded?
Dale
Joined Jun 2005
172 Posts | 0+
Oregon
have compression.....but its hard to say when the compression release is inline with the kick start it has always felt like im kicking a 250 or smaller i dont think there is a strong smell of fuel ill have the wif check my hands have been covered all day in the stuff
what happens if the float is stuck ive read you guys talking about that before
what happens if the float is stuck ive read you guys talking about that before
Hate to say it, but if it absolutely will not start, go down to your local auto parts store and get a can of starting fluid. Remove the air filter, squirt some in the intake and kick it over. Unless you have a large hole in the side of the head or no spark at all, it will start. If you have compression, spark and fuel, the engine will run.
an easy way to test ya compression is to put ya finger over the spark plug hole and kick it. If it blows ya finger off the hole then compression is good.
there's a good chance ya float isn't floating and flooding the carb.
there's a good chance ya float isn't floating and flooding the carb.
thanks alot guys i mean it the compression is good just did the compression check its all good...ill try the starter fluid trick tomarrow hope it works.
Test for spark performance it might be sparking out side but under compression it might not.
Remove plug and cap on a reasonable kick you should be able to pull a spark to the head of around 10mm if you find you have to really hammer the kick start to make it do this then I suspect the stator.
Sparks.
Remove plug and cap on a reasonable kick you should be able to pull a spark to the head of around 10mm if you find you have to really hammer the kick start to make it do this then I suspect the stator.
Sparks.
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 773+
Ely, England
as mentioned ewlsewhere recently: i pour a thimble of fuel into the bottom of the boot and that starts it!
check the ignition also in the owners doc you'll see how the wires from the stator should be connected.
also, an orange spark is useless. it's a blue spark you want!
regards
Taffy
check the ignition also in the owners doc you'll see how the wires from the stator should be connected.
also, an orange spark is useless. it's a blue spark you want!
regards
Taffy
Joined Jul 2001
3K Posts | 1+
El Sobrante, Ca. 94803
sparks said:
Caution:
Be certain the engine is not flooded and spewing fuel and air from the plug hole while doing such a test. I witnessed a race bike burn to the ground with the technician being badly burned under similar circumstances.
Dale
Joined Oct 2004
1K Posts | 14+
nova scotia
I'snt that the truth. A few years ago a customer calls me on the phone asking why his snowmobile will not start.Trying to be helpful I ask him check for spark, compression etc.Next day I hear he took the plug out pulled the cord and gas spewed all over the sled.It caught fire and in seconds the sled was gone and he barely saved his garage and attached home...LINEAWEAVER said:
Joined Dec 2002
759 Posts | 0+
western NC
I ran into this one time on my 96 FE501. The bike was doing alot of the same things you have described. Somebody here on the site said to check and clean out the little hole near the bottom of the carb on the air cleaner side. Well I did so and the hole was plugged up very badly. Afterward the bike started and runs good. I think the hole is either a vent or something for the choke, it is in the same circuit and the bike will not start if it is plugged. This will work on the VHSB and the PHM. That might be your problem.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
so im pretty sure the problem is the dam thing keeps flooding out any suggestions for that or does anyone know a good carb guy that wont charge me my left n$$
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