Hi can anybody tell me if a timing chain from a 610 husky is the same pitch etc as a 400 fe husaberg as i got a new one for a husky but not a husaberg it looks the same and i can adjust the length is there any little fitting tricks i could be made aware of cheers all
Joined Nov 2001
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Ely, England
i would have thought it's the same.
i fit the camchain onto the old one and feed it around the camgear. use a splitlink and keep your index and thumb pressing down ontop as you feed one chain in and another out.
use some rag down and around the gear to cover yourself as you fit the split link. don't forget to remove the tensioner. try and upgrade the tensioner blade while you're there. this can still be done without even taking the sidecover off let alone the head.
regards
taffy
i fit the camchain onto the old one and feed it around the camgear. use a splitlink and keep your index and thumb pressing down ontop as you feed one chain in and another out.
use some rag down and around the gear to cover yourself as you fit the split link. don't forget to remove the tensioner. try and upgrade the tensioner blade while you're there. this can still be done without even taking the sidecover off let alone the head.
regards
taffy
Cheers Taffy,the husqvarna chain is a completely different pitch the links are about half the size so that was a no no when i removed the rocker cover i also noticed that one of the teeth on the cam wheel was broke which may have caused the damaged chain it is fitted with a steel cam sprocket so its been upgraded in the past.I have ordered a new chain and cam sprocket in steel for it and i will fit it at the weekend as it is now cam-chainless when i fit the new chain i make sure the piston is at TDC and the cam lobes are at 1 and 11 oclock and the crank sprocket and timing chain sprockets dots line up and link it all up so the lobes rock back slightly when i fit the tensioner is this correct or am i missing something...cheers for everybodys help 
All i wanna do is get it going for long enough to razz it round my local mx track then i`m prolly gonna sell it
All i wanna do is get it going for long enough to razz it round my local mx track then i`m prolly gonna sell it
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
don't do TDC with anything in the plug hole. the best way is ignition cover off and get the second line to get there (the left of the pair) inline with the top screwhole. this is TDC. you won't be setting the cam at any angle. it either looks right or is a whole tooth out and will look awful!
regards
Taffy
regards
Taffy
OK when i pulled the timing chain off the mark on the flywheel was a few degrees off of alignment with the top screw hole when i had the crank dots and cam lobe in the right position is this normal or is it out anyway i was told it was a good runner but i`ve yet to experience that help me taff help me
Joined Nov 2001
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Ely, England
forget the two/single dots on the gears. just concentrate on the cam lobes and the timing mark. the mark is right and the rest must come right. the lobes will loot a teeny bit out with an old chain but should be good with the new one in and the tensioner fitted.
regards
Taffy
regards
Taffy
Right so what do i do about the dotted gears once i1ve got the rest where i want it mate keep mucking about without till it all comes good cos the cog that the bottom of the timing chain runs on moves indepently of the crank when there is no chain on so i guess i line up the flywheel and the cam lobes then set the bottom cog then affix the timing chain would you agree ...sorry to bug ya but i want it to be spot on Cheers taff
Joined Nov 2001
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Ely, England
i don't have an early model but if it's anmything like mine you have the two gears you are on about already meshed into the clutch drum and shouldn't have touched it!
the camchain could be fed out the top.
so did you pull it all apart?
naughty boy!
if you did you have even more work to do!
suggest you
mesh the gears with the dots correctly first.
feed the chain around the bottom gear and then use wire to hold each end above the block
turn the crank to TDC
feed the camchain onto the camwheel and try to jump the links on the teeth to get the cam around to the right place.
should finish with the lobes at 1 and 11 o clock with the crank at TDC with the tensioner fitted!
regards
Taffy
the camchain could be fed out the top.
so did you pull it all apart?
naughty boy!
if you did you have even more work to do!
suggest you
mesh the gears with the dots correctly first.
feed the chain around the bottom gear and then use wire to hold each end above the block
turn the crank to TDC
feed the camchain onto the camwheel and try to jump the links on the teeth to get the cam around to the right place.
should finish with the lobes at 1 and 11 o clock with the crank at TDC with the tensioner fitted!
regards
Taffy
Taffy said:
Taffy usually goes on to say once chain is fitted put a straight edge at 45 degrees across the lobes and measure the gap front and back from underside of straight edge to cylinder head if correct both measurements should be the same, but if the cam is tilting slightly forward this is a good thing, as the chain wears your valve timing is coming more into line, where as if the lobes are tilting back you are going further out as the chain wears.
I think all this can be in the doc.
Regards
Sparks.
Right i`ve got the idea i had the clutch off to fit a new kickstart shaft but i re aligned the dotted cogs on re assembly it was then that i noticed the timing chain was shagged so i set it all up as per owners doc at T D C then removed the rocker box cover and found the broken tooth on the cam sprocket i was happy that it all tallied up Dots Marks Lobes etc but i noted that the flywheel marks were about 5 degrees before the top bolt hole that is why i wanted to confirm how it all lines up before i put it all back together wrong.
What i`m gonna do is put the mark on the flywheel in line with the top bolt hole,check the piston is at tdc align dots on lower cogs fit the new chain and cam sprocket and make sure the lobes are at 1 and 11 turn it all over by hand to make sure it all comes back into line then zip it all up and try to start it does this sound ok or am i still missing something thanks to all who are helping with there advice...
What i`m gonna do is put the mark on the flywheel in line with the top bolt hole,check the piston is at tdc align dots on lower cogs fit the new chain and cam sprocket and make sure the lobes are at 1 and 11 turn it all over by hand to make sure it all comes back into line then zip it all up and try to start it does this sound ok or am i still missing something thanks to all who are helping with there advice...
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
you won't get the gear dots to line up at the same time as the engine is at TDC. you can't have everything!
get the dots and gears right and then COMPLETELY FORGET THEM.
just concentrate on getting the chain on, TDC, cam lobes right, wrap that chain around it all, and seal it all up!
don't forget to do 360 on the crank afterwards to get the lobes to 5 and 7pm. then fit the rocker cover! think about it!
regards
Taffy
get the dots and gears right and then COMPLETELY FORGET THEM.
just concentrate on getting the chain on, TDC, cam lobes right, wrap that chain around it all, and seal it all up!
don't forget to do 360 on the crank afterwards to get the lobes to 5 and 7pm. then fit the rocker cover! think about it!
regards
Taffy
I thought the dots were to signify top dead centre? when i re fitted the clutch i put them back where they were to start with so they shouldn`t be a prob i`ll stick it all back together and take some photos when i get the parts and i`ll let you have a look at em again thanks for your help Taffy
Me again..................
Well i put the new timing chain on i put the flywheel mark level with top bolt hole checked the piston was a TDC and it was but what ever i do no matter how many times i try it the dots wont line up they always end up approx a tooth out.Anyway i got the dots lined up and the cam in the exact right position but the mark on the flywheel ends up about 5 degrees short of the top bolt hole> the long and the short of it is the bike starts EVENTUALLY after many bruised ankles and feet and swearing and runs reasonable but not great...would i be better off putting the flywheel in exactly the right place leave the dots out slightly adjust the cam so its right and try that any suggestions..... Thanks
Well i put the new timing chain on i put the flywheel mark level with top bolt hole checked the piston was a TDC and it was but what ever i do no matter how many times i try it the dots wont line up they always end up approx a tooth out.Anyway i got the dots lined up and the cam in the exact right position but the mark on the flywheel ends up about 5 degrees short of the top bolt hole> the long and the short of it is the bike starts EVENTUALLY after many bruised ankles and feet and swearing and runs reasonable but not great...would i be better off putting the flywheel in exactly the right place leave the dots out slightly adjust the cam so its right and try that any suggestions..... Thanks
Hi Taff i did pull the clutch out and like i say with the flywheel mark exactly where it should be two dots on the crank sprog end up slightly further round than they should be according to the diagram in THE DOC the balancer shaft seems about right so it ends up that the single dot is where it should be but the double dot is about a tooth away and no matter how many times a turn it round it comes back the same i reckon the flywheel mark is my only solution TAFF fancy coming down and having a go LOL
I`ll have a go with the marks the other way if that don`t work i may take you up on that Taff cheers mate your advice is very valuable OH nearly forgot i`ve stripped the wiring down to the bare essentials but i`ve left the leccy boot in place is it possible to jump start it or do i need some sort of solonoid as when i earth it and connect a positive jump to the starter terminal all i get is a shower of sparks thanks
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