once more STUPID venting issue

I know I know I am beating this dead horse but.......

2005 FE550, Tried the check valve that Dale recommended both in the stock boot and in a jumble of hoses and tee fittings. Still passed oil and I thought the problem was that I had nothing to catch the mist and let it turn to liquid again. And with just hoses with a piece of foam in the end like on my 2001 501. Problem the bike still pukes oil out the breather. What am I doing wrong?

I only put in 1 quart of oil, Even with the stock set up I was blowing major mist into the air box.

Bike runs strong, no weird noises, and starts like a wet dream.

I was wondering can a catch container ala the DRZ 400 be used to vent the case and then let the accumulation drain back into the case?

Is the entire case under the same pressure conditions? Is there a way to return the breather to the case? I dont think so but there are many out there smarter than me so just a thought.

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Taf You may be right about the oil ammount. Whot knows, maybe I didnt get it all out when changing. Vent hose is at the handelbar. That is how I knew :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Oil in me lap. Came home with stains in the crotch made the wifey wonder :twisted:

husabutt said:

The 04's and up went to a double breather spigot rocker cover. I suspect this has something to do with it. The placement of the spigots must be so that oil is flung right out the holes as when I did a breather mod on my 05 it was a total disaster. Oil everywhere in copious amounts. I blew out so much oil that it overheated. Perhaps plugging up one spigot or going back to the 01-03 rocker cover will do the trick. Who wants to be the first to remove the breather hoses from the rocker arm cover, start the bike and see what the problem is?

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Ok I was the stupid one to take off the hoses and see. 8O

The vent to the rear must be over a oil feed or the cam chain is flinging a lot of oil cause it comes out like from the end of a punp! I had a hose on it that was 16" long and it sprayed oil out the end.

First try to fix. I made two canisters out of 1 1/4 pvc with barbed ends and some of the corse foam like in the stock breather to catch the mist and let it return to liquid. It worked MUCH better but still pumped oil out the rear breather at high rpm and with the hose just above the radiator. I think the key here is volume in the catch area if you are going to run both vents but you are limited in space. Next try was to block off the rear vent and just use the canister on the front vent. WALA so far so good. Full throttle and you get some mist still but nothing to cry about. Besides I cant go WFO for very long.

I will take it on a 250 mile test next weekend and let you know . If it works I will take some photos and let you see it. I talked to Takis and he is only running the front breather on his Supermoto and I think he spends much more time WFO than me and he has not had any problems. If this works I will probably make the canister out of Aluminum and put an angled end on it for better hose routing.

If any one sees or knows a reason that I should have both vents PLEASE let me know. What is the factory doing about this problem? Fryguy? I know that I was spewing oil into the airbox with the stock setup. That cant be good. But.................. if this and the lack of a big gas tank are the biggest problems on the 05 06 bergs



NO PROBLEMO

Did you use the metric kit with the 1/2" hose barbs?

Look in my gallery and also see if Takis still has his up. Mine has no more problem so far and the added benifit of the way I did mine is you get about 6 inches more height when the bike is on its left side. Remember you have almost no problem spilling oil when the bike is laying on its right side because of the breather is on the left but on its left side .... well you get the point. With the little amount of oil the motor holds I want to have as much as I can without doing dammage by overfilling. I think you will find that just by blocking off the rear vent tube( accident at the factory I have been told) you almost eleminate the slinging of too much oil into the breather. With the rear breather hooked up and 1 qt of oil mine spit oil out a 3/4" hose that was 12' above the handelbar. Lotta preasure. I think you will find the guys that are supermoto and street racing the berg's are doing a mod simalar to mine. I even say one that rean the vent hose into a catch bottle and drained the bottle into the fill hole.

I think the extra breather was a mistake.... I have it from a certain Racing legend ( from overseas not the D miester) that the factory told him that.
The location of the rear breather is directly over the chain wheel for the cam. You all know about centrifical force when a chain is saturated with oil............. FLING!!!!!!!!!
That is the sorce of the volume and distance that the oil will be pushed up. I really dont show any wear that could be from lack of oiling in the top end and I am now around 100 hrs.

I think you can gain the same benifit by blocking off the rear hole and running a hose up to the top of the frame tube and then back down to the bottonm frame rail next to the radiator overlow with out the check valve. That is the northern boys soultion and you all know Fry and his gang know their stuff.

I did not do the mod to make more horsepower, or to keep my airbox from getting a film of oil. I did it because I am a mere mortal and when you fall and go upside down( yes I have dont that at least 2 times in my carrreer) the carb fills with oil if you dont jump up faster than liquid can flow. I went from First place with almost 1 minute lead to waaaaay back in the pack after a over the bars experience in the new years day race in 2001. Lesson learned!