OIL-recommendations

I realize we have been here before, and that many great minds have added to the debat. but since we are starting over I guess i cant search the forums for the answer so here goes... I have decided to go with the DELO 400 for my bike and i was wondering what weight i should use. any suggestions?

15W-40

Joe

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Well I use Pennzoil 5/50 w full synthetic! We ride in fairly cold and hot conditions.

JoeUSA said:

15W-40

Joe

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Yep, Delo 15-40. Shell Rotella T in 15-40 is also a good choice if you can't get the Delo. If you must run synthetic, Shell also makes Rotella T synthetic, in a 5-40. Here in the states Kmart, Walmart, and Autozone typically carry the gallon size of the standards for fairly cheap($6-7), and Walmart carries the synthetic Shell for about $13.

Following is a copy quote from another site.

Here is some virgin oils to compare 1st 3 are Diesel oils. The 4th is a good Motorcycle oil. 5th one is a car oil. Keep in mind if you ride in Hotter areas and run you bike real hard a XXw 50w oil might be a better choice. Oil wt is a very big factor in wear also.

Virgin 15w-40 Chevron Delo 400 API CI-4, SL

Test was done by Oil Analyzers
Iron 1ppm
Chromium 0ppm
Lead 0ppm
Copper 0ppm
Tin 0ppm
Aluminum 0ppm
Nickle 0ppm
Silver 0ppm
Silicon 0ppm
Boron 0ppm
Sodium 0ppm
Magnesium 23ppm
Calcium 3343 ppm
Barium 0ppm
Phophorous 1116ppm
Zinc 1376ppm
Molybdenum 0ppm
Titanium 0ppm
Vanadium 0ppm
Potassium 0ppm
VIS@100C 15.95cSt
Tbn 10.63
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Virgin Mobil Delvac 1300 Super API CI-4,SL

Test was done by Blackstone Laboratories
Aluminum 1ppm
Chromium 0ppm
Iron 2ppm
Copper 0ppm
Lead 0ppm
Tin oppm
Molybdenum 35ppm
Nickel 0ppm
Manganese 0ppm
Silver 0ppm
Titanium 0ppm
Potassium 0ppm
Boron 61ppm
Silicon 6ppm
Sodium 1ppm
Calcium 2195ppm
Magnesium 419ppm
Phosphorus 1120ppm
Zinc 1231ppm
Barium 0ppm
SUS VISCOSITY@ 210F 81.5
Flashpoint 405F
Insolubles -Trace, but will not hurt anything at this level according to report.
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Virgin 15w 40 Rotella T Shell API CI-4, SL

Oil test was done by Oil Analyzers
Iron 1ppm
Chromium 0ppm
Lead 0ppm
Copper 0ppm
Tin 0ppm
Aluminum 0ppm
Nickle 0ppm
Silver 0ppm
Silicon 2ppm
Boron 0ppm
Sodium 0ppm
Magnenesium 20ppm
Calcium 3322 ppm
Barium 0ppm
Phosphorous 1326ppm
Zinc 1499ppm
Molybdenum 0ppm
Titanium 0ppm
Vanadium 0ppm
Potassium 0ppm
VIS@100C 15.12cSt
Tbn 10.36
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BMW 20w - 50 Motorcycle oil API SG


Test was done by Oil analyzers
Iron 0ppm
Chromium 0ppm
Lead 0ppm
Copper 0ppm
Tin 0ppm
Aluminum 0ppm
Nickel 0ppm
Silver 0ppm
Silicon 2ppm
Boron 155ppm
Sodium 0ppm
Magnesium 1039ppm
Calcium 345ppm
Barium 0ppm
Phophorus 1413ppm
Zinc 1584ppm
Molybdenum 0ppm
Titanium 0ppm
Vanadium 0ppm
Potassium 0ppm
VIS@100C 19.29cSt
Soot/Solids 0
TBN 7.54

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Chevron Supreme 10w - 30 API SL. A good energy conserving "starburst" dino car oil.


From Blackstone Labs..Report date 7/1/2003

Chevron Supreme 10W-30 SL GF-3

Alum = 1
Iron = 1
Moly = 65
Boron = 133
Silicon= 3
Sodium = 1
Calcium= 1814
Magnesum= 4
Phosprus= 732
Zinc = 879

Sus @ 210 F = 63.1
Water = 0
Insolubles = 0
Flash Point = 365 F ( ??? )
TBN = 8.0

Mobil 15-50 full synthetic. Your motor will last forever and it will love you for it. That is the number one oil, all racers use it. Anyone that dosent is not going to keep it that long or is an idiot. I swear by it.

hehe, this is going to be fun. :spank:

I only ask to all the "idiots" who are going to post a reply(even those "idiots" who have spent the majority of their adulthood working with oils and have the audacity to disagree), please play nice. One :bugeyes: doesn't always deserve another.

thanks,
json

schwim said:

hehe, this is going to be fun. :spank:

I only ask to all the "idiots" who are going to post a reply(even those "idiots" who have spent the majority of their adulthood working with oils and have the audacity to disagree), please play nice. One :bugeyes: doesn't always deserve another.

thanks,
json

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Been through this before.Enuff said. :rant:

I'm playing nice. It's just that I see so many idiots out there. That care to go the extra mile in preserving and giving a machine the best maintenence. Then when they have to replace parts dew to were they can afford it then.

I think there should be some oil wrestling matches to settle this score, once and for all. There could be various vats with different oils, to see who the victor will be. Sounds like a great fund raising opportunity for UHE, and might generate more interest than raffles.

Only if there are naked chicks.

If you saw me covered in oil, you would pay me to put my clothes back on. THAT would be a fund raiser, and my second most humiliating life experience, next to waking up in the barracks crying for my mommy while in the fetal position...... but we'll leave that for another camp fire...

json

justin_yz426 said:

It's just that I see so many idiots out there. Then when they have to replace parts dew to were they can afford it then.

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Justin:

Dew you see any idiots now?

Good!

husabutt said:

Justin:

Dew you see any idiots now?

Good!

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LOL.
i was wondering when someone was going to take a swing at that one.
tuts

Brendan said:

Following is a copy quote from another site.

Here is some virgin oils to compare 1st 3 are Diesel oils. The 4th is a good Motorcycle oil. 5th one is a car oil. Keep in mind if you ride in Hotter areas and run you bike real hard a XXw 50w oil might be a better choice. Oil wt is a very big factor in wear also.

Virgin 15w-40 Chevron Delo 400 API CI-4, SL

Test was done by Oil Analyzers
Iron 1ppm
Chromium 0ppm
Lead 0ppm
Copper 0ppm
Tin 0ppm
Aluminum 0ppm
Nickle 0ppm
Silver 0ppm
Silicon 0ppm
Boron 0ppm
Sodium 0ppm
Magnesium 23ppm
Calcium 3343 ppm
Barium 0ppm
Phophorous 1116ppm
Zinc 1376ppm
Molybdenum 0ppm
Titanium 0ppm
Vanadium 0ppm
Potassium 0ppm
VIS@100C 15.95cSt
Tbn 10.63
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Virgin Mobil Delvac 1300 Super= 8.0

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Interesting chemical analysis. RELEVANCE 0 PPM.

tuts said:

husabutt said:

Justin:

Dew you see any idiots now?

Good!

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LOL.
i was wondering when someone was going to take a swing at that one.
tuts

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Thanks Tuts:

Nothing personal against anyone. Just feeling especially mean and hateful this evening!

I think most professionals agree that your better off with cheap non synthetic oil ($.89 a qt at Walmart) and changing it every ride than using a high end synthetic and changing it every few rides. These 4-stokes are not the most pleasant bikes to service. Especially my KTM (2 filters, 2 screens), so I tend to put my faith in the more expensive synthetics. For me its Motorex 10/50......

Thanks Tuts:

Nothing personal against anyone. Just feeling especially mean and hateful this evening!

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On the occasion when that happpens, you should log in as "Husabutthed." :lol:

550FCman said:

I think most professionals agree that your better off with cheap non synthetic oil ($.89 a qt at Walmart) and changing it every ride than using a high end synthetic and changing it every few rides. These 4-stokes are not the most pleasant bikes to service. Especially my KTM (2 filters, 2 screens), so I tend to put my faith in the more expensive synthetics. For me its Motorex 10/50......

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I disagree the second that motor starts the oil breaks down and losses it's protective value. Now with a full syntetic that was used for breakin in a car motor they still had the honeing marks at 200,000 miles. The oil is so much better. I dont run it in my truck though. The reason wjhy is i'm not keeping it that long. So it's not worth it. But for my bikes my mom's truck. Only mobil full syntetic.

Brendan said:

On the occasion when that happpens, you should log in as "Husabutthed." :lol:

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note to self

It is not my job to point out inconsistencies and grammatical errors.


Husabutt hed