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finster9864 · Jul 31, 2004

Evening anyone, got my '04 FE 450 in May. 1st race H&H 2hr event, 9th in Clubman B, best result all year. The "Berg" start's on the button or kick with no hassle. Power and handling are awsome.
I've had 2T and WR 4T, but this is bike is the dogs bollox.
I had considered a Berg for the last year, heard all the usual un-reliabiability stories and spoken to other owners.
No regrets, very pleased.
If your in UK and want to race with "Bergs", go to WirralOffroad.co.uk, loads of Berg riders, races every month, training days etc.
The future's Yellow & Blue.
Finster.

husabutt · Jul 31, 2004

Welcome finster!

There is not a whole lot of feedback from 04 owners yet. Hope to see some more ride reports from you.

finster9864 · Aug 1, 2004

04 reports

Thanks Husabutt, I'll let you know how the '04 performs but at the moment I've had absoultly no issues. My berg's done 47 hrs, 14 H&H events (2 or 3 hours) and regular trail rides.
Handing is superb, no "headshake" like our Orange relations, even when it's on full bore across the rough stuff.
I use a "Optimate" battery maintainer after every ride and the start button has never failed. Oil change every 3hrs (Putoline) and a clean filter every ride. Start her on the kick when she's cold, 1 or 2 kicks max, after that it's over to the magic button for the rest of the day.
The series I race in is sponsored by Dave Clark Racing (Uk Husaberg Importer) so there are lots of Berg's at every event, and getting more popular.

Finster

Taffy · Aug 1, 2004

Finster

Mr Irelands team have about 6 bikes of which only 4 are in service at any one time. however with the new found reliability of the '05 models let's hope that things change.

DCR sponsors his series quite rightly because WOR are now just about the biggest club in the country. you scratch mine and....

here is a document that may help a bit.

http://home.btconnect.com/elysium-sports/ownerXI.doc

Taffy

finster9864 · Aug 1, 2004

Well done Taffy, you just did a great job of making a new and member feel very deflated. I thought the site was for the enthusiast ?
My I respond to your comment's , "Mr Ireland" ...Steve , run's a very dedicated and enthusiastic race series which has introduced the Husaberg brand to many new riders, the fact that 4 of the 6 team bikes (your statistic's are in question, there are only 4 rider's in the WRO team !) are serviceable will be seriously affected by the fact that they are ridden very hard twice every month, by riders that don't get full factory sponsorship, they are effectively privateers.
As for DCR sponsoring the series as a "you scratch my bike..." exercise, are you really that naive, of course that's the case. He's an importer for Husaberg, it's his role to promote the brand.
I assume that you have an '05 model as your quoting the "new found reliability"
Maybe you should get yourself entered to an event and show some real passion.

Cheers, Finster

Taffy · Aug 1, 2004

Finster

i try to talk out of just one end at once.

cheers

Taffy

t-jet-tim · Aug 1, 2004

With a battery tender on my 02 fx470
I haven't had to kick it since.When my
damper was off I got a little head shake
in sand in 6th gear,(way too fast) but it
was still better than a couple of my friends
KTMs.And one has a damper.Nock on wood,
but I haven't had any major problems yet.
Hopefully the Keihn carb is more water
resistant than the Dellatoro.

finster9864 · Aug 2, 2004

Taffy !!

As I thought,you don't race.
Just hide behind e-mail.

Spineless and no balls.

Taffy · Aug 2, 2004

look Finster

i've raced hard for five seasons, i cover 25% of all the race reports i reckon. at the moment i'm very busy but i'm out every weekend or second weekend when i'm at it.

i was right about the sponsorship, i'm right about the bikes and i'm right about their reliability. no i don't have an '05 my point being that they have not been reliable this year.

certainly the november bikes weren't.

i've no problems whatsoever with WOR meetings and you got it completely wrong if you infer that i do.

as for hiding behind an e-mail well at least my nickname is all by which people call me by and i don't call myself 43001 or sumink stupid!

i'm not spineless and given that i regularly come in the top 10% at the age of 43 i can say for myself that i have plenty of balls.

i am an enthusiast that's why you were given a link to a 9-page document that tells you all i have gathered over 2.5 years of ownership and i have more posts here than anyone in an attempt to help others.

so stop talking crap, sit up at the back and pay attention!

in the words of guy ritchie's film 'snatch' "when i give somebody a f****** bone i don't expect someone to complain..." etc etc

given that i sent you the document first up i suggest that my resenting your attitude is entirely appropriate plus i do like to stir the **** anyway!

given that the site has become a little boring lately it's nice to have that little sparkle which i like to see! i normally have to go right out of my way but this was so much easier!

so given all this i'm going to have to come up to my home country and give you a bloody good hiding!

eat my dirt finster! i'm on :twisted: :twisted: my way!!!!!

Taffy

BundyBear · Aug 2, 2004

In the words of the **** sitting near Meg Ryan "I'll have what he's having!"

schwim · Aug 2, 2004

RE: You've awoken the beast

The honorable Taf has spoken, everyone hold on to your *****....

Finster, Taf seems to get restless when there haven't been any passionate debates, and begins creating them himself.

Everyone be happy with each other, as we're all certified grade "A" nice guys.

:grouphug:

Group hug

thanks,
json

faktor · Aug 3, 2004

STIR IT UP :evil:

newberg · Aug 3, 2004

thought I would add to the 04' 450 report, had my bike since mid may I resprung it, and rejeted it other than oil changes and general maintainance checked valves twice now no adjustment needed aprox 50hrs. handles great, suspension great, lite weight, got to be one of the best bikes I've ever owned

PowerFiend · Aug 3, 2004

Taffy said:
however with the new found reliability of the '05 models let's hope that things change.
Taffy

What is changing in '05 to improve reliability?

LINEAWEAVER · Aug 3, 2004

PowerFiend said:
Taffy said:

however with the new found reliability of the '05 models let's hope that things change.
Taffy

Click to expand...

What is changing in '05 to improve reliability?

Hi Powerfiend,

New for 2005:
Titanium valves in a further effort (ie size reduction in 04) to reduce follower wear.

Reduced stroke for the 650 (actual displacement now 630cc) in an effort to increase main bearing life.

The addition of a thermostat to reduce warm up and provide for a more stable operating temperature.

Best Regards,
Dale

Xmen · Aug 3, 2004

Hi Dale,

All your efforts, very well documented on this website, points out that the main bearing problem is in reality a problem of bad alignment of these bearings.
And now husaberg is reducing the stroke of the 650 to extend the main bearing life ?????
I must admit that I fail to see the logic behind this decision.

LINEAWEAVER · Aug 3, 2004

Xmen said:
Hi Dale,

All your efforts, very well documented on this website, points out that the main bearing problem is in reality a problem of bad alignment of these bearings.
And now husaberg is reducing the stroke of the 650 to extend the main bearing life ?????
I must admit that I fail to see the logic behind this decision.

Hi Xmen,
You and I both. :?
Dale

44014 · Aug 4, 2004

oi taffy was that a poke at my nick on here...?
dont get me angry mate or i will come there and roost ya (if i can get it back together )

doug
<44014 is my tech number for work>

PowerFiend · Aug 4, 2004

LINEAWEAVER said:
Xmen said:

Hi Dale,

All your efforts, very well documented on this website, points out that the main bearing problem is in reality a problem of bad alignment of these bearings.
And now husaberg is reducing the stroke of the 650 to extend the main bearing life ?????
I must admit that I fail to see the logic behind this decision.

Click to expand...

Hi Xmen,
You and I both. :?
Dale

The main bearing problem doesn't seem to be a problem in the KTM's with the same bearings, is this due to stricter manufacturing checks (You would think that the Austrian built Berg's would also benefit if this is the case) or is it due to their motors being of a smaller displacement (A 400cc, 450cc, and a 510cc(520/525))? ...since the majority of main bearing failures seem to be in the 650's, at least from what I've seen on the boards.

LINEAWEAVER · Aug 4, 2004

Hi Powerfiend,
I have no opinion regarding KTM longevity, however, it is indeed a given that by reducing power output and piston speed the life of a main bearing is made easier.

All else remaining equal it can be said that increased power = increased load = increased rate of failure.

From a manufacturing point of view is it better to treat the affliction
(ie excessive load for a given design and tolerance) or the symptom (premature failure)? Treating the symptom is the least costly albeit with a consequent reduction in overall performance.

Simply an opinion based on careful observation.

Hope this helps.
Kind Regards,
Dale

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