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Neverending Story: E-Start

Joined Jul 2002
201 Posts | 0+
Zwiesel, Germany (Bavarian)
Sorry for opening a new topic.

I have bought a FE 501 2001...

The battery is a YTZ7S (nearly new)
Autodeko at the camshaft from KTM (my dealer told me its better than the Husaberg´s , the solution for bad e-starting...)
Valve´s adjustment 0,12 mm (like my FE 600)
New starter freewheel.
Cable direct from Battery to E-Start like the 03 models.

Starts good with kickstart, but rare with the e-start.
To less power to turn the motor round!!!
When I pull the hand deco, motor turns but don´t starts.

Bevor buying a new battery, tell me what can I do.

Please give me a compendium for this solution.

I heard from welding the autodeko axle...?

How to measure the electr. datas.?
 
the electric starter is for when the bike is warm. please take the bike for a 30 minute ride and then try it. if it starts on the 'leccy boot' then that is how it should be.

if you are saying that the bike doesn't spin even when hot? well we all have that problem! onm my bike i would pull the decomp arm in nand hit the button, then let go of the decomp arm and it would fire.

good carburation is everything. you will need to get this right as well.

it's great to have someone here from central europe so welcome!!!

regards

Taffy
 
Hi Taffy,

I only do the electric starter with warm motor, to take care for the freewheel.

The trick with pulling the decomp lever have I tried- without success.

The next step is to check the carburator.

What´s the straight tip for Adjustment?

The mixture screw is 2 turns out.

Remember: One Kick with kickstart and she´s running!

Thanx for welcome!
 
i'm coming over for my fourth oktoberfest in september...

hotel brunenhof-opposite the piano bar!!!!!! about 400m from the railway station.

anon. there are two good set ups in 'owners doc' which is at the base of this very post! try them!

as for the decomp, well i tried welding the decomp and it changed the balance point on contact with the follower. all that happened was that the follower would push the decomp back down! oh well!

good tappet adjustment is VERY important!

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy said:
i'm coming over for my fourth oktoberfest in september...

hotel brunenhof-opposite the piano bar!!!!!! about 400m from the railway station.

anon. there are two good set ups in 'owners doc' which is at the base of this very post! try them!

as for the decomp, well i tried welding the decomp and it changed the balance point on contact with the follower. all that happened was that the follower would push the decomp back down! oh well!

good tappet adjustment is VERY important!

regards

Taffy

Oktoberfest: maybe we can meet us.

The follower would push the docomp back down... I don´t understand this

regards

Husa98
 
Dang it there is another guy in Europe with the same exact bike and same exact problem as me.

What I have found is that the battery in my bike is not that good although the previous owner told me it is new and I believe him.

But there may be a charging issue with this battery. Yes, it is a better battery than stock but you need to get a serious charger like the Optimate III. Something that will cost over 60 USD/Euros.

The new charger (Opt. III), when connected to the current battery, will charge it pretty well until it has enough juice to restart, but when charged, it indicates the battery is weak, although the previous charger (an economical Battery Tender) would not charge it for as long and would not indicate the battery's lack of power (note: not same thing as lack of voltage).

What battery charger do you use? Maybe you should consider a new battery and charging it with a good charger.

Some good reads for you:

http://www.husaberg.org/modules.php?nam ... opic&t=490

http://www.husaberg.org/modules.php?nam ... #dldetails

As far as the carb is concerned, you should check the mixture screw and if you feel like it, give it a good cleanup, it never does any harm, unless of course you screw up.

And what Taffy said about the valves/tappets is also true of course.
 
Back from one week holidays in hungary in www.martinscrosscamp.de I would tell you from my 501 husaberg.

First of all: Driving home from the track to the hotel 10 km at the country road my friend with a Huskqvarna 610 can´t keep my pace when I speed up in 6. gear from 70 to 100 km/h :lol: for the rest of the week we named him a bluff package!!

The E start don´t works except for 2 times.

Now I will change the setting of the carburetor to a smaller idle jet 33 instead of 35 for better starting.

Another driver in germany told me about the importance of the calibration of the decompression weight.
Also he saith the the SEM ignition don't spark under 800 rpm.

He had tried some combinations and now the starter works.
Another wrote he had changed the weight to the 05 one and the starter works now very well!!

Now I have one Idea:

To minimize the clearance from the weight in the hole (6,55 mm diameter) of the camshaft (calibration) whats about a bushing?

Had anybody tried this?


@Taffy. Thank you for changing your picture.
 
Hi Husa98,

here you also look for answers for you e-start problem??!!
Nevertheless, we try to get your e-start work fine. I think, the guys and me from the German forum brought you on the right way.
Let us know about your process of development....

The battery (5Ah) never was the problem of bad starting. Even the small battery was strong enough to make some speedy turns for minum 30 seconds. The charging system of my model 2002 always operated well. The engine has to start not later than after 10 seconds.

Oktoberfest?
Mmmh, that´s a great idea! Maye I´m able to come to Munich too and we can hook up and drink some beer together!
 
i arrive friday 16th sept at about 3pm in the afternoon and feel i will have to be with the other 10-12 (we also have 4 italians we meet every year and now they will stay in our hotel from this year!) saturday is in the HB for us foriegners.

for me saturday evening in the festival or at gunter murphys is good. but i will be very, very drunk by then!

a really good time is sunday morning through 3-4pm. each year we 'do our own thing' and recover through to mid-afternoon. so- sunday is good.

also we will be very good boys on monday lunchtime and will take three hours to drink just one stein. some won't want to see one!

BTW for us, in and out via strasbourg is better. sehr billig! so late monday we drink in the market square of strasbourg. by then we can nearly crack a smile but we sweat a greasy, smelly secretion.

only oktoberfesters understand this sweat!

my kidneys also understand!

regards

taffy
 
hribman said:
Hi Husa98,

here you also look for answers for you e-start problem??!!
Nevertheless, we try to get your e-start work fine. I think, the guys and me from the German forum brought you on the right way.
Let us know about your process of development....

Oktoberfest?
Mmmh, that´s a great idea! Maye I´m able to come to Munich too and we can hook up and drink some beer together!

Damned!
You had caught me red-handed!!
 
A mate of mine has a 02 Fe501E thats has always been difficult to start on the button. Kick starts a dream but no go on button.

He disovered that the wire on the rectifier/regulator had been placed in incorrect order. Should be Red/white on first pin, Yellow on second & Brown on third, (fourth pin unused). First pin being the right hand pin if sitting on bike. Once he corrected this bike strats perfectly on button. A very simple fix in his case so worth checking for all thoose with difficult E-start bikes.

Cheers Horto
 
Horto,

thanks for your advice,
as I bought my 2002 FE501, I had the same problem with the wiring.
The battery wasn´t charging at that time.

But you can believe me, the problems we´re talking are really caused by mechanical issues. Especially the last 3 weeks, we discussed a lot about the e-start problem on the german forum into every and the smallest detail.
I think, now, little by little we´re heading for the right direction.
 
I checked my wiring and the colors are at the right place.....

@hribman: when Du you visit your Husaberg Dealer?
 
Its worth persisting with. I am one of the lucky ones that has a bike 03-Fe501E that has always started on the button, Cold with choke, hot without. I have never needed to kick start it until recently when sprag gear began to not engage cold. Replaced these and now it starts cold within 1-2 second every time.

It could also be worth checking the cam/crank timing as it is very easy for it to be one tooth out. Ie need to align the balance shaft gear (one tooth has a dimple on it between the 2 dimpled teeth on the primary gear wheel Refer fig 10af of work shop manual. You need to use a thin straight edge centred on the 2 shaft as if just check by eye it is very easy to get wrong. If it doest look wright ie just off centre, you will need to to remove inner clutch hub and rotate one tooth and re engage clutch and check.

Cheers Horto
 

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