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My berg is now a Baileys dispenser!

Joined Dec 2005
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Ireland
just dropped oil and found it has water in it. I took the bike out last saturday for 60 mile run. Previous to this it had fresh oil and coolant put in. The bike ran terrible. backfiring and overheating and dying on hard acceleration and also dying sometimes at idle and under hard breaking. I had put this partly down to new main jet 190 and jetting being off but perhaps there was more at play.
Last night i stripped plastics and wheels off bike for good all over cleaning and dry weather prep. I only noticed oil tonight while trying to get the salt off my wheels. I dropped it and got about 1.1 litres of bague coloured milky goo as in pic. If you have been reading my other posts you will know that in the past 200 miles I have changed the oil 3 times now as I have been watching swarf which was allot altho powdery the first time and this time and the last there was minimal stuff but still present. Also this time there was two 1/2 match head size chunks along with powdery stuff.
I have no experience of water in oil before and would appreciate any input. Hopefully it is a failed water pump seal and nothong else. I am in two minds at the moment to make a novice attempt at taking the engine out of the frame and taking it to the mechanic at the weekend for a tear down or whether I should pull clutch cover and water cover off to inspect seals. Are these known problems? What should I look for to spot failed seal? I had by coincidence ordered clutch gasket and water seal along with some other things today as I had a mild leaky clutch cover over the past while.
Could the head gasket have gone?
Would the symptoms of the past 2-300 miles point in any particular direction? overheating.. white plug.. allot of popping.. motor dying on hard accelaration and occasioanly at idle.
shoudl I check anything else?
I had such headache and heartache with my last bike, a so called reliable drz. It cost me a fortune to put right and got me in allot of bother. I saved cash for 2 years since to get this thing and I hope it has not brought the same curse within the first few weeks

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any input would be good :?
 

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Re: bague choclate oil

i would think that it's your waterpump seal that has gone. so try this. all you'll lose is another load of oil and coolant if you're wrong so go ahead.

i did it that way in the summer. so i'm preaching what i practice.

you could pull the rocker cover and re-torque the head to stronger figures which you'll find in the doc under rebuild.

i put a new headgasket on and it happened straightaway. did the new torque numbers and it stoppped. it shouldn't happen to a long established gasket though.

good luck

Taffy
 
Check your cam chain as well, those two little lumps sound very much like the ends of the pins on the joining link, if they are there is not much holding your cam chain together (this happend to mine when the auto decompressor broke off)
 
Man, that sucks. Hey, I would suggest that if you aren't going to tear down your motor immediately, you should refill if with clean oil and run it for a few seconds. This will help prevent the corrosion that will set in the instant air hits all those metal parts, especially bearings. It will drastically shorten their life. I'd say you've got a bad water pump seal or someone stole your headgasket! Good luck. Corey :shock:
 
Please allow me to give you some sound advice.Tear down your motor and find out what is going on inside.Don't kick it,don't start it,don't ride it,don't torque it,don't fill it,don't jet it. cheers and good luck
 
BILLTECH said:
Please allow me to give you some sound advice.Tear down your motor and find out what is going on inside.Don't kick it,don't start it,don't ride it,don't torque it,don't fill it,don't jet it. cheers and good luck
Hey, dude, you don't necessarily have to "tear" your motor down the find yuour problem. Take apart the water pump stuff first. As I said though, you still will need to flush all that s#$%t from your engine, so why not do it first and protect the parts while you deliberate on a strategy? Maybe I didn't read it all right, but did you find any METAL shavings in the oil? If I did tear it down, it would be top-end only at first. Good Luck. Don't flush the baby with the bathwater.
 
Billtech is the kind of fellow that will have the engine torn down,problem repaired and back together while everyone is still discussing what could be wrong....it is just his style.
 
nsman said:
Billtech is the kind of fellow that will have the engine torn down,problem repaired and back together while everyone is still discussing what could be wrong....it is just his style.
And all for free, too.
 
well heres an update..

started bike last night to test for head gasket. stopped it after a minute and heard hissing from the barrel. It would appear a very small amount of the goo was seaping on the intake side. So I took the engine out tonight which wasnt as hard as I thought. Its in the car now and going to mechs tomorrow. Hopefully it will only need a new gasket and nothing else. As to why this happened I am still unsure but reckon possibly a combination of running hot from being lean and maybe when I refilled with coolant before that ride there was a blockage or air lock?
Picking up parts tomorrow including two new C4(i think?) bearings for the crank which are going to replace the supposed weak ones in there already. Many of you done this? I was hoping to do this anyway and hopefully this H G going turns out to be nothing but a blessing in disguise as I can get the engine stripped, inspected and strengthened. This may have been a pre-emtive strike considering the recent swarf I had on the magnet. I just hope nothing else appears once the nut is cracked open and that the head aint cracked or warped etc. New sprag clutch going in to so, hopefully I can get the e start going when hot.
Polished the silver rims last week with a drill and polishign kit including wax bar. Going to clean and paint the frame black while the lump is out next week and replace all crappy nuts and bolts with nice shiney stainless or coloured ones.
Should all be good in time :D
 
just a thought but perhaps your jetting is a little lean and the bike may be pinging and destroyed the head gasket that way just a thought

cheers doug
 

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