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Michelin Bib-Mousse

Friends of mine have tried it and it was great but that's because they live in France, where the temperature seldom reach 90F and usually only in the South, for two month.

The Bibs do fine as long as you ride under that temperature. From what I heard, Michelin said the tires would work in Baja, but they didn't.

Now, maybe they updated the technology and put new foam that resists higher temperatures.
 
Husabutt

I've used the both Michelin and Metzeler bibs, prefering the Michelin due to their longevity. Typically we install a set in March or April and use them all season. By Sept they are very soft, but in a mud race, this is very desirable. However our riding is typically quite slow compared to the pace that we rode in Moab or especially the desert. I understand that desert speeds create to much heat and the foam comes apart.

For us bush riders, bibs are a no brainer and are used for trail riding and racing. The bibs would last longer if I removed them after each ride. They compress inside the tire and shrink as time passes in the tire. After a days riding and a 4 hr drive home, the last thing I want to do is remove bibs.

Installation is diffucult at first, very diffucult or impossible if your tire changing skills aren't already polished. Once a technique is learned they are way easier than a regular tire to change. More specialized tools are required, but flat tires are not the best when you are a long way from the trucks and gas is a more desireable payload than irons, air and tubes.

Sorry for the long spiele, but there is lots to learn and advantages to the bib.

Fry

PS the 6 month lifespan is their "recommended shelf life". I wouldn't buy a bib that has been on the shelf for 2 years, but at the 6 mo span would be ok in my opinion.
 
I've heard both pros and cons to the tire balls. Positives that it is adjustable, ie 24 balls equals 14 lbs, 22 equals 12lbs. Bibs just sack out and loose their 'pressure' and can't be revitalized. The negative being that although they don't wear out, they do occationally burst, and then are ruined.

Cost is close to that of bibs, but that I'm not certain of. Both are expensive, but so are ruined rides.
 
I usually take a spare front tube and then i can change a tyre on the trail. Front or Rear.
 
That's what I do as well but I have also heard of people using 2 tubes at once.
Not sure what size they would use but it kinda makes sense.
 
I've run the Bib Mousse and thought it caused the bike deflect off of things and were a very squirrelly in the sand washes. You don't want to run them in the back wheel, they melt unless you have a 250 or something small. Some of the racing teams that run 250's use bib mousse front and rear; they swear by them.

We used tire balls in the front wheel of our XR 650R in the Baja 1000 and they were flawless. Because you have 40+ balls in the front, they soak up rock hits at high speeds better than tubes. The cost us 170 per set but unlike bib mousse, they don't get flat spots sitting your garage and the compound doesn't break down. I had the tire balls installed down in El Cajon at a shop for 40 bucks but I've learned how to do them myself and they aren't too bad to install.

I use heavy duty tubes in my personal bike and don't have many issues. Flats are a part of the game in the So. Cal/Mexican desert. I do use two tubes in the rear, one heavy duty tube and one std. tube sliced open as a liner. I rarely have any issues unless I pick up a nail or something.
 
Baja Racer knows his stuff. But I've seen tire balls fail several times in rear wheel applications. Mostly on big bore bikes, but 250's as well. They don't provide the same, even sidewall pressure that tubes do. This keeps them from locking on the bead as well. The big power of a 4-stroke can easily cause the tire to start slipping. When they start to fail, it gets ugly real fast...
 
As you have said, Baja Racer, the bibs do react to hits differently that air. Do the air balls react similarily?

Are the air balls installed with the same technique, and demeanor?
 

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