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Maybe my 08 450 is too big & I have to get a "girls" bike

Joined Dec 2009
274 Posts | 21+
Skidaway Island GA
Alright guys I need some help, have a 2008 FE450 that I love riding but I keep tipping it over! Admittedly I'm a dirt noob but have ridden street for 30 years but when I ride in deep sand, mud, tight single track, when I stop or have to put my foot down I TIP OVER! It's embrassing :cuss: Yesterday I rode my first single track after riding indoor MX track (which I love I love jumps!) and it was muddy, rutted, and really tight for me. I had to stay in 1st gear and dab alot with my feet to get through. I was fine going over logs, boardwalks, even a stream crossing (I was so proud of myself) but then if I wasn't pointed quite right to continue down the trail I'd try to put a foot down and tip over!!

I Do realize that my skills are lacking but I'm so bummed that maybe I have to face the fact that the Berg is just too big for me and maybe I should get a "GIRLS" bike (yuck) that's smaller CC, lighter, and lower to the ground. Most of the women that I know that ride off road ride 150/200 with smaller wheels. It's just hard for me to go there since I love the Berg's power and really haven't had trouble with controlling the speed just the balance and confidence.

I'm about 5' 7", 140 lbs and have set the sag correctly with a new 69-250 spring from Enduro Engr. I've shaved down the seat as much as I can and recovered it.

So what's next? Do I keep the Berg, lower it, learn to ride better which is a given, or ditch it and buy a GIRLS bike?

Thanks Colleen (LadyBerg)
 
Hi Colleen

you sound just like a newb and not like a newb girl to me. we all went through that. you may lack some strength but you are a good height. the secret in the end will be that you will ride better and better, you'll save the situation more often and even when it goes wrong you'll get your backside over to the edge of the seat in no time and plant a foot down.

so I would say stick with it and keep learning. hopefully if riding with others you'll see how they do things (if they are better riders) so I think the longer you ride the husaberg the better you're going to get. if it's a case of too much power - well that's another thing and if it scares you well again time to go.

otherwise i'd take the bull by the horns.

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy,

Thanks for the "chin up" I know that getting more experience riding and training is the key to my success. And, I'm not afraid of the Berg's power :D , I absolutely LOVE it on a MX track and on an open trail. I love how I can just blip the throttle and pop over or plow through terrain and feel like my control on the gas is good.

I do ride with some skilled guys and noticed that they all put a foot down to pivot their bikes or power slide when the going gets tight and in ruts. This is what presents a challenge for me. If I have time I can slide off the seat but that doesn't come natural since I cut the seat down so far :lol:
 
Colleen, might be an idea to try those techniques the others are doing in a flat open area first then once you've got the hang of it try it out in the tight stuff or ruts.
As long as you learn from each fall your going in the right direction though. Sounds like you'd get bored of a girls bike in no time.

Stick with it and good luck :D
 
when i got my '04 450 that replaced a 400, i wasn't thrilled with the gearing, went one tooth smaller on the front and found it was easier to ride in the nastys because 2nd was more accessible. do you have the stock gearing?
 
My gearing is 14/48 with a gorgeous Iron Man rear sprocket, it was a GNCC bike before I got it. That puts me at 3.43 ratio. Hmmmm...if I go to a 13 countershaft sprocket I could get 3.69 ratio. Might be a good idea and I'm assuming that KTM front sprocket will work, yes?

Good idea practicing slides and quick stops on an open area but it still seems a long way to the ground.

You guys are wonderful!!!! :bounce3: :bounce3: I really would hate to admit defeat and get a girly little bike 8O :oops:

My husband (who doesn't ride) is pushing for a suspension lowering and revalve. Gotta love the guy who lets me spend $$$ on my motorcycle addiction.
 
Not sure you want to go to the 13 tooth. No KTM front sprocket will not work either, the countershaft sprocket is Berg specific. Have you dropped the forks in the clamps and cheated the rear sag yet?

Try to ride with your feet on the pegs at all times. It will make you a better rider and saves ACL's. Everyone dabs on occassion, the idea is to dab as little as possible.
 
The gearing sounds fine to me, and 13 tooth sprockets are hard on the chain. In tight slow, technical going you should be using the clutch at least as much as the throttle to control drive. Its far easier to modulate the clutch (and rear brake) to control drive than the throttle in lower gears. Its why we have wet clutches. My 650 is almost impossible to ride any other way in tight going.

Keep your head up, look where you want to be, because where you look is where you go, and its mostly defined by where your chin points. Its easy to look down in slow going, or any going for that matter, and guess where you go, and if in doubt, power out. Flex the hips, push the bike down in slow going, and what Berger says, keep the feet up most of the time. New ACLs are expensive and disruptive. Throwing a leg out can also upset you balance, lots of body weight there.

Get some skills training and do some drills in easy terrain. A couple of really easy ones are a cone weave/slalom on flat ground and a couple of planks to simulate ruts.

Steve
 
Great input! I have considered raising the forks in the triple tree and lightening up my race sag but I thought that was a big NO NO. That's easy enough to do but not sure with the stock bars whether it will change much.

Doing cone weaves, slow speed drills is a good idea as well, just have to figure out where to do it as I'm a city gal. I do see the picture here of needing more practice & training on the slow speed stuff and staying up on the pegs. I come from a street back ground and also used to road race Ducati's and for some reason dragging a knee and going fast doesn't bother me but puttering around slow and avoiding big trees and objects does.
 
Colleen,
If you have room for another bike, a trials bike is AWESOME for learning balance. They are even quiet enough to ride around the back yard in the city.
Arkansaw Wisconsin has some really good practice areas. They have a well maintained track and a harescamble loop. They also have some nice open fields for laying out some cones, or rocks, or something to turn around..... It is lacking ANY kind of singletrack however, but that is what Nemadji is for. :D

http://www.arkansawmx.com/

The guy that runs it is really a good guy.
 
How much lower do think you need it? Sealsaver make a Xbolt for it I think. You could got to a smaller (less side wall )back tire,I think a Dunlop has tire short side walls. Your first ride of the season on the trails you think you need a new bike you just need some more riding time.
 
Arkansas MX Park ooooohhh I love table tops and doubles, spent Jan & Feb riding at the Sandbox MX track thanks Mudd

Number9, I thought the Xbolt was only for the 09 and newer bergs, I have an 08. Dropping it an inch would help a ton. Can't beat the $100 price prox. My tires are Michelin SX and I like them but they're getting worn.

I cleaned my bike today after digging thru the muddy single track yesterday and it took 2 hours to get all the mud off 8O it was packed in so bad I could hardly turn the back wheel. Left a HUGE pile of poop in the driveway maybe that's why it was so hard to ride :wink:
 
you can also get a stepped seat which has foam cut out to give give it a lower seat height, i have this on mine and it helps loads.

and its actually comfier than the factory seat
 
Hi LadyBerg
being a women you are going to be at a disatvantage physicly compared to a man, technics that men employ
may not work for a women, women can have better finess than a man use that to your advantage
I am not saying this loosely i have a female friend that by gender ride way better than I ever will
I can take her anywhere and she will follow in short order
she ride a KTM 250XCW so she has less weight to deal with but you have smoother/useble power use it to your advantage keep in mind that practice makes perfection and what wont kill you would make stronger

later VIKING
 
well i run 14 51 and i would have thought colleen that you have fallen into the trap of thinking; 'i mustn't stall. i mustn't stall'. it can have the effect of making you rush on at things. with low gearing the engine will be comfortable. you'll come up to tricky stuff at 3mph and not 4mph and have more time to look and appraise things.

I had a customer about to sell his 450. "too much bike" he said. so i put my foot right in it and said that if he got a jetting kit off me the bike would be sharper, crisper but also more precise and controllable in delicate situations. anyway, he's keeping it now. loves the bike.

regards

Taffy
 
Not sure you want to go to the 13 tooth
don't listen to that hack 8) or the naysayers that think it's bad for your chain. riding it is bad for your chain.
if you find that the speed you have to carry you through the terrain you ride makes you uncomfortable, then do it. made a lot of difference on mine (13-48).
as for the height, try not to worry about it. too many people freak about whether or not they can flatfoot it, but as jeff ward (or lizardkiller or the elf) could tell you, flatfooting is overrated. i'm living with a 29" inseam and i'd be willing to bet you're not far off that mark. the only time it comes into play is when you're stopped.
c'mon colleen: MAN UP! :rock:
 
Hi LadyBerg,
I have been riding trails for about 3 years. 5' 8" and a late starter at age 47. I tip over a lot especially towards the end of the day when I am tired. So you are not the only one out there tipping over. I learnt early in the piece don't fight it when it tips just jump off, dust yourself off, have a good laugh, look around to see which of your mates saw you fall, and get back on. I take plenty of water and a Gatorade too.

I do find I am slowly getting better. Seems the more you try the easier it seems to be the next time you ride. I also get nervous when I can't reach the ground. I forget to look where I want to go and I incorrectly look straight down.
I do try and study the paths and techniques my mates ride up the hills before I go up last. I find that helps too.

Hopefully the people you ride with tell you lots of tricks. I know I have learnt a couple of new ones reading this post myself.

I also sometimes yell out, "Free beer for anyone who rides my bike up this hill". That seems to magically get the bike up the top of the badest tracks.

I loved riding my mates 08 FE450 before I brought my berg. I just know I personally wouldn't sell a Husaberg 08 FE450 for something else. They seem light and have good low down power.

I went with the biggest rear/smallest front sprocket I could get on my first bike (TT250) but have left my 570 Husaberg standard so far. I am always tempted to put the smaller sprocket on the front.

I also bite the bullet and change my rear tyre maybe a little too early, as I need any advantage I can get over my mates.

My mates call my bike the Pussaberg :)
 
After bumming out about my Big Berg riding I rode a little KDX 125 on Sunday and totally hated it! Slow, small, bottomed out the suspension over jumps and it just didn't dig into the ruts and pop over things like the Berg. But I could touch the ground easily so slides and stops were easy, no tipping over!!! :cheers:

This made me realize that hey I'm not a total crap rider, I just need to get used to tight single track so that I feel comfortable riding it like I do a MX track. I also think that dropping the CS sprocket from 14 to 13 will give me some room to relax a bit. So I'm gonna "man up" and keep the riding GIRLYBerg :peace:

Thanks guys for all the help, stay tuned for more adventures and questions Colleen
 

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