I think that having fuel injection is a real advantage in these situations. What stopped the engine was water ingestion which drowned the spark plug. Get the water out of the cylinder and the inlet tract, pop in a dry plug and it's good to go. No more having to worry about water in the float bowl.RejekzNoodles said:lol lucky to get it goin then
Greg
:shock: Just as a matter of interest, did any water get into the engine oil at all?
You may need to get a diesel engine with a snorkel if you want to ride in the water, better still how about a jet ski they seem to float a bit better than bergs.. :lol:
You may need to get a diesel engine with a snorkel if you want to ride in the water, better still how about a jet ski they seem to float a bit better than bergs.. :lol:
GregUK said:
You have got to be joking? EFI and water? That scenario is the only time I would wish I was on a carby bike with a kick starter. There is no advantage being on an EFI bike, in the words of Michael Caton, "Your dreaming"
I did have a look at the oil glass when I was fitting a new plug - it looked OK then. However, I will change the oil before I ride it again and I'll let you know what it looks like as it comes out.easyrider said:
I entirely disagree.Davo said:
Earlier this year I rode the same ford with the 2008 FE450 I then had. It took a couple of hours to remove the water from the carb bowl. On the very last carb bikes the idle adjuster bracket made the float bowl drain totally inaccessible. I flattened the battery from multiple attemps to start it and the group I was riding with shagged ourselves kicking and pushing the thing! I had to resort to a breakdown truck to get a jump-start.
Dreaming? No! This, my friend, was reality!
Davo said:
I also can't agree. Cleaning out a carb flooded with dirty water and then kickstarting.....what a NIGHTMARE!! On the EFI the fuelling system is sealed. All you have to do is waterproof the electrics which isn't difficult.
Also found another advantage to EFI the other day. When the bike goes over a sensor kills the engine. Then you just pick it up and it starts!! No flooded carb/engine scenarios. EFI....bring it On!!
I'm with GregUK and pegscraper. Drown my 570 in about 3 feet of water, had forgotten my spark plug wrench, removed air filter and turned bike upside down, cranked the starter until majority of water was out of the engine, put bike back on it's wheels, cranked the starter for about 10 seconds and pop, she fired. Unbelievable!
Hi, that's got too be the easiest push out i've ever seen, where were the rocks mud and leeches do the later models come with a flotation device...........colin
crackin movie m8 mines a carbie n i would neva dream ov doin that as i no for a fact the bugger would neva start i remember just giving it a quick wash with a jetwash in a fuel station after a ride, water got in the frame from the air filter ....... could i get the fooker started hell no i had to call recovery :evil: just be carefull tho m8 coz quenchin hot metal can cause trouble for ya keep the good vids up m8
Yes, the oil was emulsified. I'm flushing through some cheap bike oil a few times until it all cleans up, then I'll put a new filter and decent oil in.easyrider said:
I guess the water must get in past the piston rings.
Greg
GregUK said:
Hi,
How do you go about flushing the engine oil? Any advice would be welcome.
Dropped my FE570 in a fast flowing stream yesterday, it was fully submerged for about 30 seconds and took about another 5 minutes to get it out with water pushing it just below seat height. Drained some of the water, pushed the starter, it turned over but didn't fire...not unexpected. But, milky emulsified 'stuff' spewed out the overflow pipe under the swingarm, and the oil glass is now pure white. Slighlty concerned...
If anyone's got some advice on flushing the oil system that would be tops.
Flushing the oil system should be very straighforward. Pull the drain plugs, pull the filter, lean the bike left and right until you can get as much drained out as you can. Replace plugs and oil filter cover, but don't waste a filter. Fill up with any old oil, and warm it up in the garage (do not ride). Drain everything again and inspect the oil for evidence of residual water. If there's evidence of water, keep repeating until there isn't any. Don't forget the filter on the last iteration.
You'll want to drain all the fuel out of the tank, too.
Getting the water out of the evaporative canister may well be impossible. You can probably get most of the fluids out of the lines by blowing into them (I wouldn't hazard compressed air except at very low pressure), but that evap canister is probably a goner. So remove it and the rest of the smog crap, and use the little aluminum plug that came with your bike to plug the hole where the valve on the cylinder head is located.
You'll want to drain all the fuel out of the tank, too.
Getting the water out of the evaporative canister may well be impossible. You can probably get most of the fluids out of the lines by blowing into them (I wouldn't hazard compressed air except at very low pressure), but that evap canister is probably a goner. So remove it and the rest of the smog crap, and use the little aluminum plug that came with your bike to plug the hole where the valve on the cylinder head is located.
Thanks...water was about seat to handlebar height, but force of the water pushed the whole show sideways and it was all over from there.
It was fairly impressive that the electrics seem unaffected
It was fairly impressive that the electrics seem unaffected
Sorry smithi, I didn't read your post at first. II thought ruger went swimming.. I hope you get it all flushed out.
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