Joined Nov 2001
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Ely, England
we brits had a bank holiday yesterday so iwas out testing dale's jetting kit at last. hell, i've only had it 6-weeks!
dale advocates completely different pilot jetting to me, the MJ is around 0-5 less than me and i'm 10 less than everyone else so we are talking 'sharp, crisp, lively'!
i decided to keep my standard MJ and PJ system and and run just the lineweaver needle. the rest of my pilot area jetting is great with me running just a 35pj and 45paj.
the needle has a lovely smooth pick up, roll on and a light but harder pull at 3/4 throttle for me. it makes the bike feel smooth which i presume means that we never actually have a lean patch as you do with the single taper needles. a clear improvement-at least from half throttle.
i then tried going from my 'spit' of APJ to running without and noticed no difference.
next, i went to dale's PJ figures which are way higher than mine and again there was no difference except that now and again i could 'catch the motor out' and it would die and then go. i used a proper PAJ for the first time in 4 years-shoving in a #100 so i was "dead proper like!"
i had planned to test a race can that i've been loaned and have already had for 3 weeks without fitment. guess that'll also have to wait another 3 as well then!
anyway, i'll race with dale's needle and pilot jetting this next sunday. i won't touch anything else, i'll run it how dale likes it.
i can see exactly how he got the improvements because i studied the needle and of course he, like me, advocates a tiny MJ which takes BALLS to run. the major differences are from 1/2 throttle and that's why the KTM he dyno'd looked so good from halfway.
after getting initially a false feed back from the cam due to being at a MX track, i want to again reserve judgement this time till sunday night.
i won't quote any jetting sizes unless dale chooses to do so. however, in the huge jetting thread started by scully, dale's 400 jetting and mine is there.
it has taken both of us hundreds of hours to get to where we are.
regards
Taffy
dale advocates completely different pilot jetting to me, the MJ is around 0-5 less than me and i'm 10 less than everyone else so we are talking 'sharp, crisp, lively'!
i decided to keep my standard MJ and PJ system and and run just the lineweaver needle. the rest of my pilot area jetting is great with me running just a 35pj and 45paj.
the needle has a lovely smooth pick up, roll on and a light but harder pull at 3/4 throttle for me. it makes the bike feel smooth which i presume means that we never actually have a lean patch as you do with the single taper needles. a clear improvement-at least from half throttle.
i then tried going from my 'spit' of APJ to running without and noticed no difference.
next, i went to dale's PJ figures which are way higher than mine and again there was no difference except that now and again i could 'catch the motor out' and it would die and then go. i used a proper PAJ for the first time in 4 years-shoving in a #100 so i was "dead proper like!"
i had planned to test a race can that i've been loaned and have already had for 3 weeks without fitment. guess that'll also have to wait another 3 as well then!
anyway, i'll race with dale's needle and pilot jetting this next sunday. i won't touch anything else, i'll run it how dale likes it.
i can see exactly how he got the improvements because i studied the needle and of course he, like me, advocates a tiny MJ which takes BALLS to run. the major differences are from 1/2 throttle and that's why the KTM he dyno'd looked so good from halfway.
after getting initially a false feed back from the cam due to being at a MX track, i want to again reserve judgement this time till sunday night.
i won't quote any jetting sizes unless dale chooses to do so. however, in the huge jetting thread started by scully, dale's 400 jetting and mine is there.
it has taken both of us hundreds of hours to get to where we are.
regards
Taffy
