toopilot said:
Man I had my 2010 at the Dealer for the last 4 weeks. I was out of town for most of it. I asked them to install a Scott's Damper. When I showed up this past Friday there was a Husaberg Damper. DaleEO confirmed that I would not be happy with it. I am pissed the Dealer is a great guy and shop. But really installing a damper that I did not ask for. Crap.
I will cal them on Monday.
Crap
Tim
I just wanted to clarify my position.......
The GPR dampens from center out, and from out to center. The Scott's damper does not do this as this leads to arm pump, and the inability to quickly change the bar direction back from the left or right to center. For GPR to say this not a good thing does not represent the truth very well. When you get tired at the end of a long race or long day on the trail, having to overcome the damping affect of the stabilizer to go from full left or right to center when straightening the wheel is going to lead you to missing corners, and lead to further fatigue. Even when you're fresh the Scott's design allows quick counter steering from full left or right, when you get on the gas exiting a corner.
HIGH SPEED/LOW SPEED ADJUSTMENT
The other aspect of the GPR is that it does not have the ability to adjust the high speed damping, and low speed damping independently. GPR claims this is not so and that it is done all at once, that's true, their system does adjust everything at once, but, I can tell you from experience this is not what you want. The Scott's damper has a separate high speed adjuster, just like most modern rear shocks have, so why would some one make a unit that does not have a high speed adjuster?
I made a post here a while back about adjusting the High speed adjuster on the Scott's damper, and all I can tell you is that it was amazing what an 1/8th of a turn can make on the High speed adjuster in terms of handling and damping. Check the post of March 28th in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9662&p=104610#p104610 for a better description of how I adjusted my damper.
RANGE OF DAMPING ADJUSTMENT FROM CENTER OR SWEEP ADJUSTMENT
The Scott's damper allows you to adjust the sweep from 34 degree's to 90 degrees. To the best of my knowledge the GPR does not do this either. This is a great adjustment that allows you to set the unit up for your personal likes, and to adjust from super tight trails, to faster more straight line type of riding. Again, I have done testing with this adjuster, and depending on where you are riding this is a great feature to have, and is super simple to adjust.
ADJUSTING ON THE FLY
GPR claims that their knob has large numbers on it so you can see where you are at, and rotates 360 degree's, and that it will not pull off. First of all once you get used to how the Scott's unit works a half turn of the low speed knob is all that is required to make the adjustment from tight slow trails to faster more open trails. On my bike, that means the needle is either pointed up or down, no having to try and look down to see what number I'm on. On the old Scott's stabilizer it was possible to unscrew the low speed knob too many turns and have the know come off. HOWEVER, the new ones won't do this, and on the old ones they made special mention in the owners manual not to go beyond three turns out where this could happen. Personally, I don't see how this could happen as the range of adjustment on the low speed knob was 1/2 to 1 & 1/2 turns out. But, as I said this is a thing of the past, and has been a thing of the past for many years now. So for GPR to make that claim on their website is rather well, not cool and misleading.
MOUNTING
The Scott's damper offers a wide range of mounting options, as does the GPR. On top of the bar, under bar or sub mount, but, only the Scott's offers a front fender mount. The Scott's sub mount is great piece of kit and raises the bars by 25mm. Don't want this rise in bar height? They will gladly dial you in to a set of bars that eliminates this rise, or cuts it down. For me, being tall, and spending most of my time standing while riding, I love the 25mm rise in bar height.
SUMMARY
To me, as a racer and trail rider, there is absolutely no comparison in the durability, adjustability, and longevity of the Scott's unit compared to the GPR unit. I have owned my Scott's damper for 12 years, and have used it on 4 different bikes now. I have changed the oil in it 4 times and it has never leaked. The Scott's unit is made right here is So Cal with no outsourced parts.
