Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
here is a post i did last night. i wanna fight wi ya!
speak yers minds NOW!
year '09 is a ****-up!
well what do you reckon to the price of next years bikes?
£6,400. sheesh! now that is excluxive! i mean, this years was a giveaway at £3,800 and this is 65%, yep 65% more!!
most small brand bikes are placed at £5,500 but to shift them they have had to cut deals at just under £5,000. so now the new model will have to come in whatever happens at under £6k me reckons. still £1,000 more than the rest and way more than a KTM!
the new model is good? yep! but howwwww good??????????
the factory wanted a short production run this year but must have overdone the USA market. not sure why but word came through months ago that they were going to have to ship them back to europe in order to 'out' them. everyone has been trying to clear the 450.
did i say the 450?
oh crap! they must have got the ratio wrong! that's it!!!! all the 650s went months ago and that explains it! they made the wrong phucking bike!!!!
so they won't do that again right! right?
ok, ok! so now what's the '09 ratio?
oh dear! 2/3rds are to be 450's! still, we live and learn live and learn hey (chuckles to himself) we will learn one day...!!!
and haven't they been having TROUBLE with them when racing them? and aren't they right on top of production now? so for this new engine WHO has been TESTING them with any lead time? is 1 month long enough? or 2? or 3?
maybe in march yes! - but august? september??? mmmmm??? - no! so not. so. good.
and that idea of outing the old stock?
yet again, Uk dealers have been urged to get the stock out.
have you seen 'mid-west' still advertising them like hell!!
i wonder if the conversation went like this?
we need you to flog some late '08s
we want to save our money for the '09s?
yes but we are telling you to stock some '08s or you won't be getting '09s!!!!
but how will i turn around the money in time to buy the new models?
don't care, your problem! and BTW to have '09s you have to take 10(?) upfront ok and pay for the phuckers!!!!!
this on top of the fact that the factory had no idea that those fantastic prices were going to happen at the motorcycle show last december!!!!
the austrians had no idea!!!!
apparently KTM uk went and thought it right up!
the factory found out and told them that the RRP they had put on them up at was £200 less than they could supply them to the uk/make them; for!!!
yet anyone who knows anything will tell you that you are either cut out to buy a husaberg or you're not. it's as simple as that! it was money simply thrown away.
and so the idea then became, "right, you get that shipment (or 2 or 3) and then that's it. you return the deposits for the rest! disapoint them!
question!
UHE members! would you be gutted that they had their deposits handed back?
don't be.
the FW that would have bought them would have ridden any ol bag o shyte that was cheap and like a good saracen, they would fight for money and nothing else!
how many of those early shipments joined us here at UHE? not many!!!!
so who are these wonderful people that decimated the UK scene hey?
who took away the importer one day and then took away his dealership status just 5 months later?
who didn't let him have dealer net status for more than the next 48 hours?
who got rid of two other husaberg dealers and left just mid west in the night of the long knives?
who are the people who took on trevor pope as a semi importer only for him to bedeck his whole website in phucking orange fer chrissakes!
KT phucking M that's who!!!!!!!!!!!
there are presently only three dealers in the whole of the "BRITISH ISLES"
mid west
trevor pope
htm
htm are on the north coast of norten irelan and all their customers to the north have names like carp and haddock!
trevor pope is in portsmouth and all the customers to the south of him have names like halibut, sole, cod and plaice!!!!!
so ktm uk. well done!
you got just one ktm dealer signed up
you destroyed the knowledge and enthusiasm of the old dealers, you wrecked their businesses after they showed great loyalty to you.
you replaced it with nothing
you have three dealershps for 61 million people
you don't advertise nationally
oh dear! i lied. yep it's true, how foolish of me! i lied. yes, i'm a liar!
they did advertise.
they advertised regularly
they advertsied in DEALER NEWS for more husaberg dealers! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
i'm not sh....ing you. that was it!
you see they thought that ktm dealers were going to get moist between their legs, drop their knickers and let husaberg in!
alas to get to their lofty orange perch all these dealers have one thing in common-BUSINESS NOUS. the very fact that they got to be orange means that they're quite bloody cute anyway and from where they sit they aren't going to be stupid enough to go HUSABERG!!!!
what a miscalculation!
the cheap bikes in december?
not telling mattighofen?
sacking dealers at 24 hours notice without a by-your-leave.
no adverts
unable to sign new dealers
no racing
no knowledge
these "business people" have got no idea about bikes, no idea about us, no idea what to do because they prove it everyday they go to work!
they should be sacked for what they've done.
i wonder if they talk of "units" and "front end user" and so forth?
the UK has been getting a rough deal for too long. it's a mess. the whole thing is a mess!
truly KTM UK - and one man in particular:
YOU ARE B.....Y W......S
or as i would tell me ol canook mucker;
"they're not BW, they're worse, they're F.... T......'s.
seriously though, i want you to tell me now what you think the future of husaberg is.
let's all make our predictions now for the future. but i reckon that if i sold just two engine sizes of the same model in the boonies i would curl up and die.
regards
Taffy
speak yers minds NOW!
year '09 is a ****-up!
well what do you reckon to the price of next years bikes?
£6,400. sheesh! now that is excluxive! i mean, this years was a giveaway at £3,800 and this is 65%, yep 65% more!!
most small brand bikes are placed at £5,500 but to shift them they have had to cut deals at just under £5,000. so now the new model will have to come in whatever happens at under £6k me reckons. still £1,000 more than the rest and way more than a KTM!
the new model is good? yep! but howwwww good??????????
the factory wanted a short production run this year but must have overdone the USA market. not sure why but word came through months ago that they were going to have to ship them back to europe in order to 'out' them. everyone has been trying to clear the 450.
did i say the 450?
oh crap! they must have got the ratio wrong! that's it!!!! all the 650s went months ago and that explains it! they made the wrong phucking bike!!!!
so they won't do that again right! right?
ok, ok! so now what's the '09 ratio?
oh dear! 2/3rds are to be 450's! still, we live and learn live and learn hey (chuckles to himself) we will learn one day...!!!
and haven't they been having TROUBLE with them when racing them? and aren't they right on top of production now? so for this new engine WHO has been TESTING them with any lead time? is 1 month long enough? or 2? or 3?
maybe in march yes! - but august? september??? mmmmm??? - no! so not. so. good.
and that idea of outing the old stock?
yet again, Uk dealers have been urged to get the stock out.
have you seen 'mid-west' still advertising them like hell!!
i wonder if the conversation went like this?
we need you to flog some late '08s
we want to save our money for the '09s?
yes but we are telling you to stock some '08s or you won't be getting '09s!!!!
but how will i turn around the money in time to buy the new models?
don't care, your problem! and BTW to have '09s you have to take 10(?) upfront ok and pay for the phuckers!!!!!
this on top of the fact that the factory had no idea that those fantastic prices were going to happen at the motorcycle show last december!!!!
the austrians had no idea!!!!
apparently KTM uk went and thought it right up!
the factory found out and told them that the RRP they had put on them up at was £200 less than they could supply them to the uk/make them; for!!!
yet anyone who knows anything will tell you that you are either cut out to buy a husaberg or you're not. it's as simple as that! it was money simply thrown away.
and so the idea then became, "right, you get that shipment (or 2 or 3) and then that's it. you return the deposits for the rest! disapoint them!
question!
UHE members! would you be gutted that they had their deposits handed back?
don't be.
the FW that would have bought them would have ridden any ol bag o shyte that was cheap and like a good saracen, they would fight for money and nothing else!
how many of those early shipments joined us here at UHE? not many!!!!
so who are these wonderful people that decimated the UK scene hey?
who took away the importer one day and then took away his dealership status just 5 months later?
who didn't let him have dealer net status for more than the next 48 hours?
who got rid of two other husaberg dealers and left just mid west in the night of the long knives?
who are the people who took on trevor pope as a semi importer only for him to bedeck his whole website in phucking orange fer chrissakes!
KT phucking M that's who!!!!!!!!!!!
there are presently only three dealers in the whole of the "BRITISH ISLES"
mid west
trevor pope
htm
htm are on the north coast of norten irelan and all their customers to the north have names like carp and haddock!
trevor pope is in portsmouth and all the customers to the south of him have names like halibut, sole, cod and plaice!!!!!
so ktm uk. well done!
you got just one ktm dealer signed up
you destroyed the knowledge and enthusiasm of the old dealers, you wrecked their businesses after they showed great loyalty to you.
you replaced it with nothing
you have three dealershps for 61 million people
you don't advertise nationally
oh dear! i lied. yep it's true, how foolish of me! i lied. yes, i'm a liar!
they did advertise.
they advertised regularly
they advertsied in DEALER NEWS for more husaberg dealers! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
i'm not sh....ing you. that was it!
you see they thought that ktm dealers were going to get moist between their legs, drop their knickers and let husaberg in!
alas to get to their lofty orange perch all these dealers have one thing in common-BUSINESS NOUS. the very fact that they got to be orange means that they're quite bloody cute anyway and from where they sit they aren't going to be stupid enough to go HUSABERG!!!!
what a miscalculation!
the cheap bikes in december?
not telling mattighofen?
sacking dealers at 24 hours notice without a by-your-leave.
no adverts
unable to sign new dealers
no racing
no knowledge
these "business people" have got no idea about bikes, no idea about us, no idea what to do because they prove it everyday they go to work!
they should be sacked for what they've done.
i wonder if they talk of "units" and "front end user" and so forth?
the UK has been getting a rough deal for too long. it's a mess. the whole thing is a mess!
truly KTM UK - and one man in particular:
YOU ARE B.....Y W......S
or as i would tell me ol canook mucker;
"they're not BW, they're worse, they're F.... T......'s.
seriously though, i want you to tell me now what you think the future of husaberg is.
let's all make our predictions now for the future. but i reckon that if i sold just two engine sizes of the same model in the boonies i would curl up and die.
regards
Taffy