Heim - which of yours went first?

Taffy

Joined Nov 2001

17K Posts | 774+

Ely, England

Discussion Starter
• Oct 31, 2007

• #1

i got through two lowers during the first 3-4 years of ownership and over the last two years i've knocked out the upper which isn't even in the muck and mire!!!!!

so please report in which order and when you knocked yours out?

regards

Taffy

 

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kzoo

Joined Sep 2005

494 Posts | 0+

Michigan

• Oct 31, 2007

• #2

I've not done either, yet... Replacing the upper and lower on my list of things to do this winter...

 

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steve

Joined May 2002

2K Posts | 141+

Snowy Mountains NSW Australia

• Oct 31, 2007

• #3

07 650, 80 hrs and still OK

98 501, one bottom shock bearing and the rest is still original, just stripped and lubed annually, with 30,00 km which I reckon is outstanding.

Steve

 

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Chas

Joined Jul 2001

448 Posts | 4+

Loomis, CA

• Oct 31, 2007

• #4

I'll bet that the Berg and KTM lower heim joints are the same. Many KTM owners replace the sometimes troublesome heim joint with the longer lasting basically troublefree F-Bushing from Synergy Seals. I just installed the new X-Bushing from Synergy which is an ingenious device that allows for altering the rear ride height and shock mount geometry to some extent.

 

Craigy

Joined Jun 2005

64 Posts | 2+

Sydney, Australia

• Oct 31, 2007

• #5

They are the same, just put the KTM one in mine since you could only by the Berg one as a kit and it was twice the price.

 

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LeFrog

Joined Mar 2005

3K Posts | 3+

Mesa, AZ

• Oct 31, 2007

• #6

I actually have a set of those heims from Synergy Seals but have no clue where exactly they belong. Anybody has a photo?

 

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Husabergler

Joined May 2004

167 Posts | 0+

Ashburnham MA. USA

• Nov 1, 2007

• #7

Two lowers and one top in that order. The last one I got was a rear to keep in stock.
It is called a kit for 29.00 but it is just the heim joint in the box.

 

Taffy

Joined Nov 2001

17K Posts | 774+

Ely, England

Discussion Starter
• Nov 1, 2007

• #8

can we get synergy seals in the UK?

regards

Taffy

 

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Chas

Joined Jul 2001

448 Posts | 4+

Loomis, CA

• Nov 1, 2007

• #9

Check with 'KaBooM' for Synergy Seals and heim joint replacements.

 

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KaBooM

Joined Nov 2003

23 Posts | 0+

Valley Springs, CA

• Nov 1, 2007

• #10

Fellas, I can send them any where in the world.

Chas, I am glad the X-Bushing is working well for you.

Go here to see a pic http://www.synergyseals.com/index.php?page=fbushing

Rob

 

Taffy

Joined Nov 2001

17K Posts | 774+

Ely, England

Discussion Starter
• Nov 1, 2007

• #11

i've just been corresponding with rob (kaboom), we want to know if the bearings are the same top and bottom? i know - i'm lazy - you can all say it!

froggy
yours are for adenoids. they clear a blocked nasal passage.

regards

Taffy

 

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KaBooM

Joined Nov 2003

23 Posts | 0+

Valley Springs, CA

• Nov 1, 2007

• #12

Yes, the top and bottom are the same Heim (junk) joint. I am not sure if the Husa's are the same shock clevis setup as KTM???

Rob

 

Taffy

Joined Nov 2001

17K Posts | 774+

Ely, England

Discussion Starter
• Nov 1, 2007

• #13

no we have heims both ends (we phuqed up twice!)

regards

Taffy

 

Taffy

Joined Nov 2001

17K Posts | 774+

Ely, England

Discussion Starter
• Nov 2, 2007

• #14

will someone else confirm the bolt sizes top and bottom? i thought it was an M10 one end anddd an M12 the other.

c'mon you lazy gits!

regards

Taffy

 

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Coastie

Joined Jan 2007

390 Posts | 0+

Central Coast NSW Australia

• Nov 2, 2007

• #15

I replaced the bottom heim about a month ago. The top was OK.
From memory (which is pretty bad) I think the top is a smaller joint with a 10mm bolt and the bottom is bigger with a 12mm bolt.
The KTM bottom is the same cos that's what I used. Don't know about the top.

Coops

 

AUSBERG

Joined Mar 2005

514 Posts | 6+

Sunset desert/ Murray River. S.A/Victoria Australi

• Nov 3, 2007

• #16

The Husa uses 12mm top/ 10mm bottom bolts.
The Kato uses 12mm top/12mm bottom bolts

The Husa uses exactly the same top Heim as the Kato (5018.0005),but the top mount widths are different
(KTM 24mm,Husa 26mm), so even though the actual bearing is the same they dont use the same adapter/mounting bushes.

 

Taffy

Joined Nov 2001

17K Posts | 774+

Ely, England

Discussion Starter
• Nov 3, 2007

• #17

ausberg - spot on ma son!

kaboom

what have you?

regards

Taffy

 

Taffy

Joined Nov 2001

17K Posts | 774+

Ely, England

Discussion Starter
• Nov 9, 2007

• #18

well i did both last night. just looking here though it seems that coastie must be right in that ktm and husaberg use the same bottom heim. so ausberg can i run that bye you again? the top, smaller heim? you reckon that that is a ktm/husaberg item??????

regards

taffy

 

AUSBERG

Joined Mar 2005

514 Posts | 6+

Sunset desert/ Murray River. S.A/Victoria Australi

• Nov 10, 2007

• #19

Taffy said:

well i did both last night. just looking here though it seems that coastie must be right in that ktm and husaberg use the same bottom heim. so ausberg can i run that bye you again? the top, smaller heim? you reckon that that is a ktm/husaberg item??????

regards

taffy

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Yes Taffy, the top is a smaller Heim

Top is a KGW 1525 (15mm bore,25mm OD,)
Bottom is a KGW 1632 (16mm bore,32mm OD)

The bushings that press into the heims are KTM or Husaberg specific due to a combo of different mounting bolt sizes or different frame mounting widths.

 

Taffy

Joined Nov 2001

17K Posts | 774+

Ely, England

Discussion Starter
• Nov 11, 2007

• #20

so if kaboom is still reading this he may still supply both? right?

regards

Taffy