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Head Gasket or Water Pump or......

Joined Apr 2011
36 Posts | 1+
Hi all,

I went to the peak district for some green laning on Sunday (awesome by the way, and well worth a few hours drive for anyone that's nearby), and after about 4 hours of riding the bike cut out. I left it for 15 minutes and it started up ok, so carried on, half an hour later same thing happened, after 5 minutes of kicking it started again. This carried on until I eventually got bored of holding my mates up, and decided to nurse it back to the car and trailer (on road).

This evening I drained the oil and found it looking very milky - a sure sign of water obviously (and the half a litre missing from the radiator confirmed it). :cry:

I don't have too much engine knowledge, but know this is generally a sign of a head gasket failure, but trawling through the wiki and other threads, think it may be the water pump/gasket instead.

Anyone got any ideas how I can check this?
Is my continued starting and riding likely to have caused further damage?

Any help gratefully received,

Martin
 
Hi Martin

which bike?

there are 2 seals on the water pump shaft, one to keep the water in the pump and one to keep the oil in the gearbox.

in between the 2 seals is a gap, the gap leads to a weep hole so if either of the 2 seals fail you get water or oil coming out of the weep hole.

if both seals fail catastrophically at the same time say due to one of the bearings failing then you'll get some water in the gearbox (happened to me once) but there will also be oil and water pissing out the weep hole unless its blocked up.

on the pre 09s there is an o ring between the clutch cover and the cases that could fail but yes it could also be the head-gasket, really need to open it up
 
Hi Bushie,

It's a 2004 FE550E, done about 200 hours and 7000 miles.
There's no leaking externally - I assume I'd see that if it was coming from the weep hole?

Thanks,

Martin
 
Hi Bushie,

Some further investigation has shown that the weep hole was blocked with a screw (why would you do that?), and the oil pump seal was buggered. This seems to explain the water in the oil then, so fortunately it's not the head gasket!

I just hope no damage was caused whilst riding the bike until it overheated and cut out.....

Thanks for the advice,

Martin
 
you put a screw in there when the little dribble of oil weeping gives you the shieeetes or you can't pass for sumo :D
 

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