Anybody know what the confinguration of the Team Husaberg enduro bikes are that displace 475 and 505cc's? Taffy posted an article by Jonty Edmunds on Marko Tarkalla's race bike, race built in Sweden. Funny Hbg drops the 470 and 501 (acutal displacement of 471 and 503), yet the race bikes that use the former sizes. What's the story? Also, they have special ignition mapping that rev's 800 rpm higher, thats great for avoiding shifts. Anybody know if that slimmer 7.5 L tank available for purchace, by people that work for a living and have a mortgage? Lastly, how much weight can you drop off your bike by removing the e-start? I was thinking about a 2005 'berg (or even going back to a 125), but now I'm wondering if I should have Dale bulletproof my 470 and tune it, drop the estart, and revalve the suspension for racing next year. End of ramble!
Joined Nov 2001
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Ely, England
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
subject
kit serbatoio alluminio husaberg
ciri segniori
cuando costa aluminio serbatoio husaberg (2002 FE 400e) in euro?
cuando costa di postale?
cuando litre porta il serbatoio?
grazzie
david lloyd
cambridge
england
also check out 'rigomoto' as well.
kit serbatoio alluminio husaberg
ciri segniori
cuando costa aluminio serbatoio husaberg (2002 FE 400e) in euro?
cuando costa di postale?
cuando litre porta il serbatoio?
grazzie
david lloyd
cambridge
england
also check out 'rigomoto' as well.
tm
The engines ( at least I know the 505 certainly is) a 100 mm bore with a "custom build crank in Sweden". I asked Thomas much the same questions while in Poland, his team bike tanks were made by a "friend" and he grinned like a cheshire cat when he told me how much it cost him. Not available were the next words from his mouth. Dropping the estart has to be at least 8 lbs, maybe as much as 12 lbs, depending on who I've asked. It depends on how much wire harness, idler gears, etc that you remove. I have done it to both my bikes and notice the weight, even though it is between the ankles.
Regarding the 505, Roland claims as much power as the 550 but lighter feeling with better cornering.
Try and ride a new 450, nearly identical engine except carb and ignition as your bike. Chassis geometry has been changed since 02 as well so you can make a judgement call there as well. I think the new chassis handles a little better and does not feel as long as the 02.
Sounds like you are revving up the race schedule, maybe Jedi needs a resume?
Best of luck
fryguy
The engines ( at least I know the 505 certainly is) a 100 mm bore with a "custom build crank in Sweden". I asked Thomas much the same questions while in Poland, his team bike tanks were made by a "friend" and he grinned like a cheshire cat when he told me how much it cost him. Not available were the next words from his mouth. Dropping the estart has to be at least 8 lbs, maybe as much as 12 lbs, depending on who I've asked. It depends on how much wire harness, idler gears, etc that you remove. I have done it to both my bikes and notice the weight, even though it is between the ankles.
Regarding the 505, Roland claims as much power as the 550 but lighter feeling with better cornering.
Try and ride a new 450, nearly identical engine except carb and ignition as your bike. Chassis geometry has been changed since 02 as well so you can make a judgement call there as well. I think the new chassis handles a little better and does not feel as long as the 02.
Sounds like you are revving up the race schedule, maybe Jedi needs a resume?
Best of luck
fryguy
Fry, you are correct, I am getting the desire to go racing again. I never was the fastest rider at any race, usually 3rd thru 10th overall. But as I near 40 yrs (next year), I want every advantage I can get. I went to 125's because the light weight and soft power was easier on my body. I have ridden the yz450 and my 470 back to back and can tell you that the Yamaha feels MUCH lighter and rev'd higher, but the 'berg felt stronger at least up thru half throttle. I liked the original (pre KTM) fe501's because they felt like a 250 2-stroke with lots of torque and a wide powerband. The factory race bike is a no-holds-barred racer that I would hazard a guess weighs less than 240 lbs (lighter than any of the current 250 4T's and is probably in the neighborhood of the 250 2T's, except for the KTM's. Why doesn't Hbg sell cutting edge racebikes to the public anymore? I would think that quite a few guys would give their left testical for a 505 race replica. Take the 470, keep the virtually stall-proof bottom end power and mid range, make it rev higher (at a certain point it just seems to vibrate and make more noise), drop 15 lbs, slim down the tank, viola, instant racer!
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tm-enduro said:
Heartbraking isn't it?
I can't believe what's going on with the brand. Gradual, depressing and really fookin' unbelievable and unecessary sanitation.
This is where those Austrians really have got the whole bloody thing arse over **** (actually not only in this way). And still they haven't resolved the real problems with the engines.
Why don't they do something intelligent for a change and give the swedes a big lump of cash and let them go play, giving us all the out and out mental bikes that should be coming out of the factory!
Oooops better stop before I really get going!
Simon
So how do we convince the mfg to make KTM the general public bike, and the Husaberg the racer? Heck even VOR makes a ENX (formerly the Mika Ahola replica) minus the smaller Aluminum tank that is for sale to the general public. How about selling the 505 kickstart only with a 7.5L tank.
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El Sobrante, Ca. 94803
LINEAWEAVER said:
bummer dude. If only I had more cash to play with. I could have you build a motor (and drop all e-start related bulk), have Dicks valve the suspension (adding Ti springs to drop weight), have BBR build a smaller tank, and make my own 2 stroke eater.
Simon
Not that I broke any secret code or anything, but from the sounds of what our Swedish friends are doing, they get " a big chunk of cash". But I suspect it gets sold with orange or other venues of engine technology. Only my personal observation and contrived thoughts, but very little of the mad scientists work gets put between your knees.
tm
It would seem all of this falls under the catagory of "corporate marketing schemes" other wise "kept in the dark and fed $#(%" Sell only what will sell, not what you have available to sell. The Japanese have perfected this scheme of "reengineering product" to boost sales, but in effect only sugar coating what is already there.
Only when an outside source threatens market share do they advance production technology. Example, KTM's electric start 4t, sure there were some produced by berg etc, but KTM had marketing power which forced the Japanese to add the button. Otherwise the XR600 would still be alive.
Seems cruel to me, because it seems like everyone has stopped producing the cutting edge racer. Berg productin advances are controled, VOR, GAS-GAS, TM and others are to small to make a difference or they just don't seem to have the ground breaking tech.
Regarding your query of upgrading. I rode my 03 501 today, first ride since the 05 550, and all I can say is try a new model. 50cc and X amount of horsepower aside, throttle response and luggability are uncomparable. Carb or ignition I can't or won't say, but wow, quite an improvement. I think I must tinker or trade myself!!
all the best
fryguy
Not that I broke any secret code or anything, but from the sounds of what our Swedish friends are doing, they get " a big chunk of cash". But I suspect it gets sold with orange or other venues of engine technology. Only my personal observation and contrived thoughts, but very little of the mad scientists work gets put between your knees.
tm
It would seem all of this falls under the catagory of "corporate marketing schemes" other wise "kept in the dark and fed $#(%" Sell only what will sell, not what you have available to sell. The Japanese have perfected this scheme of "reengineering product" to boost sales, but in effect only sugar coating what is already there.
Only when an outside source threatens market share do they advance production technology. Example, KTM's electric start 4t, sure there were some produced by berg etc, but KTM had marketing power which forced the Japanese to add the button. Otherwise the XR600 would still be alive.
Seems cruel to me, because it seems like everyone has stopped producing the cutting edge racer. Berg productin advances are controled, VOR, GAS-GAS, TM and others are to small to make a difference or they just don't seem to have the ground breaking tech.
Regarding your query of upgrading. I rode my 03 501 today, first ride since the 05 550, and all I can say is try a new model. 50cc and X amount of horsepower aside, throttle response and luggability are uncomparable. Carb or ignition I can't or won't say, but wow, quite an improvement. I think I must tinker or trade myself!!
all the best
fryguy
I am going to post some pics of the unobtanium bikes in my gallery along with some other six days pics.
A friend asked about cool enduro bikes, VOR Etc and I honestly answered the the factory bergs by far and away were the trickest bikes there. I saw one VOR, some TMs, GASGASs, but no really trick bikes.
Thierry Klutz rode on my minute and said he normally rides a 450 fse, but changed to the 300 GasGas for the six day. So things were quite blaseh, except of course for the Sheep Skull Riders. Hats off to those guys for having quite exotic motorcycles as well.
fryguy
A friend asked about cool enduro bikes, VOR Etc and I honestly answered the the factory bergs by far and away were the trickest bikes there. I saw one VOR, some TMs, GASGASs, but no really trick bikes.
Thierry Klutz rode on my minute and said he normally rides a 450 fse, but changed to the 300 GasGas for the six day. So things were quite blaseh, except of course for the Sheep Skull Riders. Hats off to those guys for having quite exotic motorcycles as well.
fryguy
The aluminium alloy tank is 350Euros whichi sis approx $350 
But, why do I want one?? It must be heavier??
But, why do I want one?? It must be heavier??
Vegard said:The aluminium alloy tank is 350Euros whichi sis approx $350
But, why do I want one?? It must be heavier??
Why? To slim down the tank area a little bit.
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