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Hard to spin over, on kick

takeiteasy

takeiteasy

Joined Jan 2006
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Hi All,
Having a problem kicking me berg off. Its a FX650e, but has the lecky start removed. The problem is on the kick there seams to be a lot of resistance to getting the motor spinning, more than on other 650 bergs. There is no way the starter would spin it over. I have done all the oil and filter changes. Check the gearing under the clutch cover and checked compretion, all seams ok.

Do any of you guys know what could be wrong, or have any of you experienced this before.

Hope it not expensive.

Take it easy
 
Did you adjust your valves properly? TDC on compression stroke? I did it the wrong way 3 weeks ago and the bike was basically impossible to kick.
 
Hi, Decomp is working OK. Am going to check valve clearences next. Would the valve clearence make such a big differance?.

Cheers

Take it easy.
 
Ok chaps, have just had a look at the valves and they do seem to be a bit tight. I put the piston in TDC, and this also lined the timing marks up on the stator and tried to put a 0.10mm feeler gauge in, but was unable too fit the gauge in. Is it best to take the rocker cover off, or is it easy enough to do with just the windows off. seems a bit tight to me to get an accurate setting?

Thanks for all you replies guys, Im learning, slowly but surely.

Take it easy.
 
No you do not need to open the rocker cover. You remove the spark plug, stator cover, inspection covers. Get into TDC on the compression stroke, by turning the flywheel, unlock the hex nuts, tighten the inner screw, then back out 1/6 of a turn using the ridges of the hex nut as points of reference. Do this to the other 3.
 
Tight valves will not i repeat not make it kick hard!

No you cannot adj. valves with rocker box off!

auto decomp could be worn, or cables not adjusted right.
 
Boss, it was my issue. I did the rocker cover job and adjusted my valves at wrong TDC, the intake valves were way tight, like 6 or 7 turns and I knew something was wrong when I was unable to kick start at all.
 
well of course it won't start if there is preload on the valve.

His valves just didn't tighten up six or seven turns.
 
I would say check and adjust valves also check your decompression cables make sure they are adjusted right. Do not remove the rocker cover, use the valve inspection covers only. Now with the spark plug out is the bike still hard to kick over? If it is there was a thread on here about kickstarter that might interest you. I went through something similar and it was a part that got loose in the kickstarter. Does the kickstarter want to bind?
Good luck and hope this helps.
 
Yes it is still a bit stiff to spin over. Allot easier than with the plug in of course, but still not as easy as I would have expected. i am doing the valves today, so I'll see if that helps. I will also have a look for the thread you mentioned.

Thanks you guy's.

Take it easy.
 
:D
Cheers all for your replys. i have just done the valve clearances, and they were all very tight. I used the 1/8th turn method that was surggested and it seems to have solved my problem. Me Berg now spins over much easier, and more often than not, starts first kick. Had to kick it with my right leg though, she kicked me back on sunday and knacked me left ankle. DON'T Laugh, I aren't the first and won't be the last.

Thanks again to everybody. And DON'T forget.

Take it easy.
 
Here is a question,
If hard starting is a sign of your valves being too tight,
what about too loose valves?
Do you get a drop in top end performance??

:?:
 
takeiteasy said:
:D
Cheers all for your replys. i have just done the valve clearances, and they were all very tight. I used the 1/8th turn method that was surggested and it seems to have solved my problem. Me Berg now spins over much easier, and more often than not, starts first kick. Had to kick it with my right leg though, she kicked me back on sunday and knacked me left ankle. DON'T Laugh, I aren't the first and won't be the last.

Thanks again to everybody. And DON'T forget.

Take it easy.
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Yes, it does that sometimes, when you don't start from right after TDC.

If you kick it right, it will not do that.

Glad to see you fixed your issue.
 
kelsow said:
Here is a question,
If hard starting is a sign of your valves being too tight,
what about too loose valves?
Do you get a drop in top end performance??

:?:
Click to expand...
UUmmmm dont know! new to this game. Just backed valves off a tad, and it seems to have cured the problem.

Take it easy.
 
If you have to go back in the engine check to make sure that everything is tight in the kickstarter parts. I had a part work loose and that made my bike a bear to start till I fixed it. In other words make sure everything is right. :idea:
 
Thanks Bill, hopefully I won't need to go back in for a while, but when I do I'll check kickstart forts for play.

Cheers, Take it easy.
 
Thanks Bill, hopefully I won't need to go back in for a while, but when I do I'll check kickstart forts for play.

Cheers, Take it easy.
 
takeiteasy said:
kelsow said:
Here is a question,
If hard starting is a sign of your valves being too tight,
what about too loose valves?
Do you get a drop in top end performance??

:?:
Click to expand...
UUmmmm dont know! new to this game. Just backed valves off a tad, and it seems to have cured the problem.

Take it easy.
Click to expand...

If the exhaust valves are too loose the decomp isn't as effective.
 

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