First ride turns into last ride? Fe600e

Fe600e no start - First ride turns into last ride?

Hey all,
I'm sorry if I posted it in the wrong place. I'm new to the forum and still figuring out how it all works.
So here's my story:
I just picked up a 2000 FE600E off of Craigslist. The guy I got it from said he had only ridden it a hand full of times while the bike was in his possession. When I purchased the bike we started/stopped it maybe four or five times in his drive way and I rode it up and down the street maybe two miles total. No problems.
I bring the bike home, it starts right up and I go for a little ride into and around town. 25/35mph speed limits, 15miles total, three stops/starts.
Heading home I turn onto my street going about 20mph and the bike starts to bog down like it's out of gas. Losses power when you twist the throttle, but when you let off it wants to idle just fine. I coast into my driveway with the bike idleing and hit the kill switch.
The next morning I come out and the bike won't start? I kick and kick and kick but get nothing? Hardly a pop. (Plenty of fuel in the tank.)
I pull the plug and find the porcelain cracked and overall in poor condition.
I put a new plug in (NGK DCPR8E, that's what was in it).
Kick her over and get nothing!
Pull the seat and air filter and find a puddle of fuel in the low spot of the air box? I dry it out, kick, nothing.
I turn the fuel off, choke off and kick it over with the decomp pulled in about ten times, turn the fuel on and kick and get a bang! And a puff of (what I'm assuming is) air/fuel fog/smoke out of the air box?
I kick her a few more times and every one in about ten kicks I get the bang backfire out of the air box and a puff of smoke/fog out of the air box/carburetor and the air box filling with fuel?
But that's it!? That's all I'm getting. It doesn't seem to be making it over that initial bang? It's like it's detonating with the intake valve open or somthing? I really don't know? It almost feels like it's sparking and kicking it backwards.
If I hold my hand over the end of the pipe I swear I can feel it suck in and barely puff anything out?

Sorry for the long post but I really don't know what's going on here? I have zero knowledge of Husabergs, I've been riding two strokes exclusively my entire life and this really has me worried.
Any help would be great!
I'm terrified it's a timing issue or somthing like that. The previous owner said it was running kinda rich he thought.
Anything to point me in the right direction would be a huge help!
I was planning on starting to pull it apart tommorow starting with the carburetor? I'm also curious what jets are in there, so that will be good to know.
Thanks in advance!

Thanks everyone for the quick replies!
Stator is aparently a pretty common problem.
Thanks Thorgan for the specifics!
I'll pull the carb and give it a good cleaning and check it out for anomalies.

The backfiring thru the carb is the part that has me concerned.
I wish I had more knowledge of four strokes. I grew up on 100% 2-smokers, this is my first four stroke, maybe I should have started with somthing a little more basic. Haha

Ok, so I pulled the carburetor off last night and gave it a good once over. Other than being pretty dirty inside and out I didn't find anything that would keep the bike from starting.
I cleaned it up and put the carb back in the bike and gave her a couple kicks and continue to have the same results; no start but a good pop every 1 in 10 and kicks the kick lever back up pretty violently and gives me a puff of vapor out the air box.
With the seat and air filter off I can hear a pretty loud sucking noise kicking it over, and kicking it over with the decompose pulled. I swear it's not blowing anything out the tail pipe.
But now the kick starter won't engage?! It just makes a ratcheting sound from top to bottom. But won't turn the engine over? Great.....

Well I pulled the clutch cover off and found about six teeth had been broken off the Kick Start Idle/Intermediate Gear. I'll need a new one of those and a gasket for the clutch cover. So that's fun... but it still doesn't explain my No Start issue. I haven't made it to the stator yet, guess I'll dig into that tomorrow..
Everything else looks good from what I can tell, since I have the cover off is there anything else I should do before I put everything back together with a new gasket??

Taffy thank you so much for that video! That's exactly what I needed! Definitly saved me atleast two hours of fiddling! Haha

Taffy said:

well you can thank me for the video but it was husabutt that pointed you that way! while you are waiting then you want to get the values of the stator.

if you look at the 6 wires coming out of iit, you'll see a green, red and a black. use a multimeter between the green and blasck on the lowest ohm setting. you'll get 165ohms.

then go red to black and go to the 20,000 ohms setting and you'll see a very quick flash reading and then all you'll see is '1'.

regards

Taffy

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True, thanks Husabutt for the links!

Taffy,
Are those the values I want to/should be seeing? Can I test the stator in the bike or do I need to pull it off to check?

Also since I lost my kickstart idle/intermediate gear, can I pull it off and run the bike solely off the electric start? Just so I can see if I can get the bike running while I look for a replacement?
It looks like it wouldn't bother it missing that gear, I just couldn't use the kickstart?
How do you think the teeth got broken off the gear? The bike would fire occasionally and kick the starter lever back pretty violently. Would that cause it? It's several teeth. I wish I could figure out how to post pictures.

fe600racer said:

Okay. Most likely stator....replace it as you will have to sometime anyway. ...best to get it rewound if faulty....The rewind people will know how to check it. Check that the decompression wire is not too tight. .ie the valve is closing....check that carbi boot not split behind the hose clamp...common on that 600 when backfire....only kick over from just after top dead centre otherwise that 600 that sounds like kick only will not start. Don't worry too much about the kick starter problem....take cover of and check little engagement pall that may be broken. once fixed only kick over once you have decompressed and slowly kicked piston just after tdc. Once it gets going make sure you don't flip it....most powerful light weight berg.

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Thanks for your input fe600racer!
I'm with everyone else in thinking it's probably gonna be the stator. Although I have not tested it yet.
I'm getting very little spark if any, but it is there? Is there any way to test the rectifier and the regulator? What should I be looking for with them if I can?
So is re-winding the stator an option? I'd really like to avoid having to buy a new one. I have found a couple replacements, both new and used. Does anyone know the actual part number or anything? I just want to make sure I get the right one. Looks like about $250 with shipping. Yikes!