Joined Nov 2001
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Ely, England
there will be no valve bounce so the lighter weight may not even save you 1/2 of one BHP in general running.
add to this you aren't racing - where you need it.
added to this that it must cost in total something like £2k and even if you have it you'd look a fool spending that kinda dosh on it.
just get stainless steel valves where i told you and stick in a set of katoom springs, go to Taff's "sherco cam gear mod" for the optimum weight saving idea and ride!
regards
Taffy
add to this you aren't racing - where you need it.
added to this that it must cost in total something like £2k and even if you have it you'd look a fool spending that kinda dosh on it.
just get stainless steel valves where i told you and stick in a set of katoom springs, go to Taff's "sherco cam gear mod" for the optimum weight saving idea and ride!
regards
Taffy
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
well i've gone to fit the kit tonight and i'm mystified as to how far out these things are. i measured everything up and printed it on the first page of this thread so i may be having a brain fart here.
some one help me through this?
with a valve,the fat 4.5mm spacer ,the thin 0.8mm washer, valve cap and cotters (keepers) installed i have a gap of 32.9mm. so i need a 3mm washer making?
installed height of 29.65-29.9mm from the packet and 29.9mm + - 0.5mm from joeusa (converted to metric) i have as i say found 32.9mm?
i need some sleep!
when i wake up joe will have answered all my questions..........
regards
Taffy
some one help me through this?
with a valve,the fat 4.5mm spacer ,the thin 0.8mm washer, valve cap and cotters (keepers) installed i have a gap of 32.9mm. so i need a 3mm washer making?
installed height of 29.65-29.9mm from the packet and 29.9mm + - 0.5mm from joeusa (converted to metric) i have as i say found 32.9mm?
i need some sleep!
when i wake up joe will have answered all my questions..........
regards
Taffy
Joined Jun 2001
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Pasadena Ca.
Taffy said:
Hi Taffy,
The installed 'Outer' spring height of Dales kit is 1.29" to 1.32", thats 32.766mm to 33.528mm. On Dales kit the inner spring is compressed to a shorter installed height because the titanium spring retainer has a boss machined on it that compresses it to a shorter installed height when the outer spring is compressed to the design spec.
If you have an installed outer spring height of 32.9mm I suggest you keep it at that. That leaves room for some valve recession before you reach the maximum for his kit.
Of course this assumes the kit you have has the same springs as in Dale's kit.
Just as a reminder, you need to check all 4 valves in their seats.
Best Regards,
Joe
Taffy are you setting them up to what Husaberg say for there standard spring height or are taking the spring height that Kibblewhite say, you need to set them to the height of the recommended spring you are fitting, it is stated on the packet.
When I put mine in they measured up perfect, i think I wrote to you before mentioning this fact.
Regards
Sparks.
When I put mine in they measured up perfect, i think I wrote to you before mentioning this fact.
Regards
Sparks.
Joined Jun 2001
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Pasadena Ca.
Taffy said:
Taffy,
As I said in my previous post....
"Of course this assumes the kit you have has the same springs as in Dale's kit."
Refer to Sparks post, it may be that the Kibblewhite springs you have are not the same as the ones Dale Lineaweaver supplied to me!
Joe
Joined Jun 2001
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Pasadena Ca.
Taffy said:
i got my numbers off the actual packet i think joe/steve?
regards
Taffy[/quote:3gvxbz40]
Taffy,
I had earlier posted a picture of my kit in my gallery. The boss on the bottom of the spring retainer is 0.054" high, depressing the inner spring 0.054" more than the outer spring.
I did not measure the free length of the springs.
Here is a pdf file of the kit instruction sheet.
Regards,
Joe
Hi Taffy,
Just been out to remeasure my spring height and it is 30mm near as dam it. With yours being an 02 could the collets be differnent?.
Will a set of 04 collets work with your 02 valve stems, if so this should solve your 3mm problem.
I wonder what Belgique did when he fitted his springs?, I think his Berg is the same year as yours.
Regards
Steve.
Just been out to remeasure my spring height and it is 30mm near as dam it. With yours being an 02 could the collets be differnent?.
Will a set of 04 collets work with your 02 valve stems, if so this should solve your 3mm problem.
I wonder what Belgique did when he fitted his springs?, I think his Berg is the same year as yours.
Regards
Steve.
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
wow!
that was weird and i've taken a risk here! most sensible people would keep this one under their hats till it worked but then when have i ever kept anything a secret! (LOL!!!)
i put the 4.5mm spacers in on the inlet side along with the spring rings and the installed heights on the inlet side came out at 32.4 and 32.6mm
on the exhaust side i DIDN'T fit the 4.5mm but fitted only the spring rings and got the following: 33mm and 33.3mm.
i couldn't really give a monkeys about the exhaust valves as i feel the springs will control them well.
so!
i'm running with joe's numbers hoping that both his and my bike have the same spring kits essentially.
the spring rings which look like a ribbed washer were too big for the valve spring recesses so i just took them to the grinder and skimmed the edges off fo a nice fit.
regards
Taffy
that was weird and i've taken a risk here! most sensible people would keep this one under their hats till it worked but then when have i ever kept anything a secret! (LOL!!!)
i put the 4.5mm spacers in on the inlet side along with the spring rings and the installed heights on the inlet side came out at 32.4 and 32.6mm
on the exhaust side i DIDN'T fit the 4.5mm but fitted only the spring rings and got the following: 33mm and 33.3mm.
i couldn't really give a monkeys about the exhaust valves as i feel the springs will control them well.
so!
i'm running with joe's numbers hoping that both his and my bike have the same spring kits essentially.
the spring rings which look like a ribbed washer were too big for the valve spring recesses so i just took them to the grinder and skimmed the edges off fo a nice fit.
regards
Taffy
Taffy said:
Well I have to say I'm an totally confused Taffy, what is it then that is losing you 3mm, there must be some thing different between years of manufacture what do you think.
Have set about the rocker lid yet with the Dremell, I had to remove quit a bit of ally.
Regards
Sparks.
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
sparks
looking at joe's kit would you say they are similar? i didn't recognise the bottom-of-photo washers?
maybe joe had these ribbed/marked alloy rings? what was the free length of yours joe?
you'll simply have to wait steve. i've either made a right ****-up which if mishandled will be expensive OR inspired, intuitive etc etc!!!
regards
Taffy
looking at joe's kit would you say they are similar? i didn't recognise the bottom-of-photo washers?
maybe joe had these ribbed/marked alloy rings? what was the free length of yours joe?
you'll simply have to wait steve. i've either made a right ****-up which if mishandled will be expensive OR inspired, intuitive etc etc!!!
regards
Taffy
Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
spanner
this is the thread that is hyperlinked http://www.husaberg.org/index.php?name= ... pic&t=6222 in the doc under engine upgrades http://www.husaberg.org/wiki/index.php/Engine_upgrade
we have mogly406 to thank for the info......
regards
Taffy
this is the thread that is hyperlinked http://www.husaberg.org/index.php?name= ... pic&t=6222 in the doc under engine upgrades http://www.husaberg.org/wiki/index.php/Engine_upgrade
we have mogly406 to thank for the info......
regards
Taffy
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