Delo400 in Australia

Bilga · Jan 30, 2017

Everyone in Australia, what do you guys pay for a 20L drum of Delo400?

I got quoted $105 but have read elsewhere that people have gotten it as low as about $75.

Damo W · Feb 1, 2017

That quote is pretty competitive and I'd just go ahead and get it. Like I said, it cost me about $120 for Delo400 multigrade but I live in the sticks....

Just make sure it's the one with the green lettering as there are several Delo oils and therefore prices range.

Forget about the $75 price. That's just too cheap and they're either talking about something different or it's the 5L bottle from the servo.

Damo

steve · Feb 1, 2017

$100-$125 seems to be the price range ATM, my last was $112 from the Bega depot. Delo 400 Multigrade 15w 40.

Taffy · Feb 2, 2017

they still sell that stuff? it's just a very good multigrade isn't it? not semi or a fully? I know Lineaweaver rated it very highly but I'm a little surprised that some feel that things haven't moved on in 20 years?

regards

Taffy

Damo W · Feb 2, 2017

I think it's just a case of sticking with something that you know works and is good all round. At $6 or so an oil change its very economical too if bought in larger quantities. Obviously I buy filters in bulk also so the cost of maintenance is of little issue.

AFAIK it's a premium formulated mineral oil.

Damo

44014 · Feb 2, 2017

I tried it back when lineweaver was an active member and did not rate it at all? Gear shift felt notchy, felt like it ran hotter and the clutch was not as smooth.
Never strayed from Motul Factory line after trying a few cheaper options.
Expensive but my old 600 did over 10000 hard km and the only failure was a valve stem seal that jammed a valve open.

steve · Feb 2, 2017

Its a semi synthetic. I use it in much of my fleet without issue to date that I'm aware of, and proven to me by providing a dramatically increased service life of roller follower bearings in my FE501 compared to the previously used Mobil 1 R4T.

Damo W · Feb 2, 2017

There are different Delo 400 products but Delo 400 Multigrade 15w 40 is NOT semi synthetic. It makes no mention of it anywhere other than to say it is formulated using ISOSYN technology or something to that effect. Purely marketing....

There is a product called Delo 400 XLE Synthetic and yes, that particular one is fully synthetic. Another is Delo 400 XLE Synblend and therefore semi synthetic. But we are talking specifically the 15w 40 Multigrade product with the green writing I thought.....

Quote 'ISOSYN Advanced Technology, a combination of Chevron’s formulation expertise, high performance additive chemistry and premium base oils'

https://www.caltex.com.au/-/media/d...ces/caltex-lubricants-product-guide-2016.ashx

Happy to see evidence of information otherwise but hope this clears this up

Damo

Bilga · Feb 2, 2017

Damo W said:
There are different Delo 400 products but Delo 400 Multigrade 15w 40 is NOT semi synthetic. It makes no mention of it anywhere other than to say it is formulated using ISOSYN technology or something to that effect. Purely marketing....

There is a product called Delo 400 XLE Synthetic and yes, that particular one is fully synthetic. Another is Delo 400 XLE Synblend and therefore semi synthetic. But we are talking specifically the 15w 40 Multigrade product with the green writing I thought.....

Quote 'ISOSYN Advanced Technology, a combination of Chevron’s formulation expertise, high performance additive chemistry and premium base oils'

https://www.caltex.com.au/-/media/d...ces/caltex-lubricants-product-guide-2016.ashx

Happy to see evidence of information otherwise but hope this clears this up

Damo

I thought bikes required fully synthetic oil, so how does it compare to say a fully synthetic oil of the same cold/hot viscosity?

Bilga · Apr 4, 2017

Any reply on the thought that bikes are required to use full synthetic?

bushmechanic · Apr 4, 2017

Synthetic oil breaks down really quickly
All the specs on the bottle are for new oil
I've tested lots of oils that come out of my bike
Delo isn't the best when new but after about an hour it's still just as good as when you put it in. After 4 hours it is considerably more slippery than the synthetics especially mogul 300v.

IMHO this is due to increased clutch slippage with the synth oils and because delo has more nasty heavy metals in it as solid lube. So with delo The overall outcome is
Better.

It's not allowed to put lots of nice metal lubes in oil anymore. Delo still has quite a lot in it which is why it's no longer available in many countries.

spanner · Apr 5, 2017

I am going to try it, and I can get it 200m from home at the servo.
50 for 5 litres.
Multigrade SAE 15w-40

lvspeed · Apr 5, 2017

oil is oil. wrong!

Hello Bilga. With mineral oils even the base- stock film retention abilities vary a lot. Penzoil used to be popular with those wishing better than average protection. It was named after Pennsylvania crude, which is no longer available. For your bikes, you want a bike specific oil, due to the additives designed to survive in a engine oil lubricated gearbox. You can use non synthetic. Be aware though these oils loose film integrity a lot faster then synthetics. Expect all items to wear faster and leave more carbon deposits, usually seen baked onto piston crowns and clogging piston ring grooves. Many good tuners like mineral oil for the first few hours, this lets all the oil lubed parts get the shoulder room needed to produce full power. I bought a low milage Kawa ZX9R that just didn`t seem as fast as it should. Running mineral oil for a 1000 kms, followed by going back to full synthetic, transformed it to a wheel standing rocket.
Our Husaberg oil change regimen should easily enable any oil to last long enough. Gawd, I otta change that drain plug to a tap! Still, lots of reasons to want the best in there. Good luck, L

lvspeed · Apr 5, 2017

oil cont

Hello again Bilga.
This just in; years ago Castrol changed their definition of synthetic oil. They dropped 70 ish % of the oil content that really was synthetic. Instead plain old refined crude was used. It was modified all kinds of ways, so that a big voice on all things oily, the American Petroleum Institute, decided it could indeed still be called synthetic. A few concerned lubricant companies still make real synthetic. Very hard to know which.
To you and me, all we really need is to know the polymers in our oil are meant to prevent glazing of wet clutches, prevent oil breakdown in gearboxes and hugely slow cam lobe wear. Where do you get that you say? In Kawasaki synthetic 15-50 and 10-40, that`s where. They worked with a chosen supplier to make exactly the oil hard working bike engines need. Recently the formula was refined to avoid the issue of fouling up catalytic converters. High strung exotic car engines love this stuff. Onward then, L

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