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Decompressor or Starter?

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G'day guys,
I need some advice, I've got an '03 501fe , it is a great bike, but doesn't want to start off the elec starter, I've hooked it up to a jumper battery ( truck size) but as soon as the engine hits compression it stops cranking , but it'll start first kick every time. with the decompressor held in it'll just crank and crank, I've had the starter apart and it looks to be in good order.I bought the bike with 25hrs on it , it now has only 40hrs but the original owner told me he had put in a new stator, but since it hasn't charged itself. I've confirmed this , must be the regulator/rectifier?
 
Boris, it is not quite hard to make these bikes start cold on the starter. If it restarts easily on the button, consider yourself lucky.

Issue is covered in many places and there are few things one can do to make it start cold on the button.

It's nothing to do with the starter.
 
Thanks for your reply but maybe I didn't make it clear enough , the berg has Never started off the button ,new battery , charged battery, jumper battery , hot or cold - it just wont turn the engine past compression.I've made minor adjustments to the decompressor in the hope of making it better, but don't want to go too far. A friend has the same bike and starts first go off the button even cold.
 
Yeah, I did try pulling the decomp lever in and even releasing it slowly but it would'nt fire.I've just stumbled upon a conversation you had with "Lplates" in a mech forum and it seems to be exactly the same trouble and symptoms as I have. I'll check the valve clearances and the weight on the cam bearings.Thanks
 
My 01 will never start cold on the button, I have stopped making that wish a long time ago.

Warm, it restarts in one kick.
 
I have the same bike, and had the same problem with the same amount of hours.... The problem is the automatic decompression lobe; it's simply not "large" or "high" enough to engage the decompressor. It's not too difficult to weld some material on and get it to the right height. After that repair my bike always starts, cold or warm, off the button. Also have a close look at the choke cable, mine had way to much free play, that didn't help much in a cold start situation! Now my bike has run for more then 270 hr's and it's still working good!
Good luck!!!
 
Thanks Guys, The starter clutch is fine-it doesn't slip ,the starter just comes to an abrupt stop when it comes up on compression. Cheesehead - you seem to be onto somthing. Can you give me some more detail on the little operation to build up the lobe. I haven't had mine apart yet so I'm not picturing what your saying , I'm guessing the weld will go on the decomp rocker or somthing to that effect? The choke seems to be fine, no freeplay to speak of and it does fire up first or second kick after sitting o/nite.
 
Cheesehead said:
I.... The problem is the automatic decompression lobe; it's simply not "large" or "high" enough to engage the decompressor. It's not too difficult to weld some material on and get it to the right height....!

i have experienced this 1st hand. i believe this to be the true problem.
i dont think welding a blob is the best thing to do though.
at worst, the blob falls off into the runnung engine. ouch.
what about buying a new decomp ramp/bump/lobe/actuator/whateveryoucallit?
tuts
 
tuts said:
Cheesehead said:
I.... The problem is the automatic decompression lobe; it's simply not "large" or "high" enough to engage the decompressor. It's not too difficult to weld some material on and get it to the right height....!

i have experienced this 1st hand. i believe this to be the true problem.
i dont think welding a blob is the best thing to do though.
at worst, the blob falls off into the runnung engine. ouch.
what about buying a new decomp ramp/bump/lobe/actuator/whateveryoucallit?
tuts
The blob weld cure was common on the -01-03 bergs. many had good luck but as tuts said it could fall off so you better be a good welder or take it to a good machine shop and have them do the weld and grind. There was some info in the old gallerys and maybe in the doc. I think maybe Groc had a pic or maybe it was someone else.

I had a 01 and Froggy is right NEVER start cold on the button but when I had a broken starter I removed the auto decomp and just used the one on the clutch lever and it was a 2 kick bike cold and one hot.

Valve adjustment is critical to making the decomp work. too much clearance and it dont open the valve and you get zero compression release.
 
Remove bodywork, valve inspection covers, and ignition cover. Turn the engine with a breaker bar clockwise from right side til you see the intake valves open and close. Remove the spark plug and insert a long skinny phillips screwdriver and slowly turn the engine til you feel the piston at the top. Put a mark on the engine and flywheel for reference of TDC. Adjust the valves here to .004-.005 inch. Bend the tips of the feeler gauge to a 90 to help install it. Be careful here as when the screw is lightly turned onto the feeler gauge it doesn't always stay there when the lock nut is tightened, causing tight settings. I ground 2 flats onto a 10mm socket that a 9/16 wrench fits. I hold the lock nut with a 90 degree screwdriver through the socket and tighten the socket with the 9/16 on the flats I ground. Nothing moves that way. After adjusting the valves, turn the engine 1 1/2 turns so piston is at bottom just before compression. Slowly turn the engine now and watch for the exhaust valve to open slightly ( you will be approx half way to TDC) . This is the auto decompressor opening the valve. Move the engine back and forth til you have the valve opened to the maximum position by the decompressor. Should have opened the valve around .030. Note where the exhaust valve adjuster screws are, and loosen them until the pressure is off the screws and the valve has closen. Should have had to back the screws off around 1 turn. If you can't see the valve open slightly or it opens but to close the valve only takes 1/4 turn or so, install a new 03 decompressor. Check to see that it is operating ok after readjusting the exhaust valves and it should start on the E Button. If still not ok, I guess the weld blob might be in order, but a new decompressor fixed mine.
dan
 
As far as I know my "blob" is still holding strong.... Yes it's maybe better to buy a new one, I got some assistance from my dealer who did a great job obviously, so I had a form of guaranty.
Anyway, new or blobbed, this is the cure!
 

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