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Cycle News 450 test

Joined Oct 2002
3K Posts | 21+
Sunland, CA
Greetings,

I have to say that I am disappointed in CN's off road test of the 450's. In the past, the test has been much more thorough (and accurate) in regards to technical aspects of the bikes and their strengths and weaknesses. I would say that this test was more of an overview, than a real test.

It seems that the only real fault they could find with the HBG was the "wide" tank. Not having ridden a HBG produced after 04 I can't comment on how much wider it actually is, so feel free to jump in here anytime with comments about that. Although, in other tests on 06's & 07's that I've read it never seemed to be much of an issue.

Jetting and other related mods made to the bikes. The CN writer kept referring to the "air" screw, and as we all know, it's a fuel screw. And, unlike the other bikes, with the possible exception of the KTM, on the Husaberg you can actually get to the fuel screw, as it is my understanding that one cannot even get to the fuel screw on the other bikes because it is blocked off by a cap.

The real kcker here is that CN said the bike was "unridably" lean. However, they point out later that it had quite a few hours on it and it had completed the quick sivler enduro. Hmmmmm, this years Quicksilver enduro was super cold, and lot's of that white fluffy stuff and mud. Seems to me that in those conditions, the bike would have been so lean it wouldn't have run. I'm not arguing the fact that they come lean, I just think they overstated the fact. So, their fix? Bump up the pilot to a 45, and then according the article "lowered the needle" (third postion from the bottom). Doesn't that usually lean things out if you do that?? Most of us know that they actually raised the needle by lowering the clip, this is the kind of poor technical moto journalism that just confuses allot of people who are not that savvy with jetting. Also, I know that the Honda for sure, does not have an adjustable needle, it's fixed.

They go on to say that they left the "stock" 180 main jet alone. Unless I'm ignorant of a change there, I believe the bike comes stock with a 178.

It's really too bad that they or someone didn't just set bike up to a closed course setting of the DVR, or even the DVT needle at pos #6, 40 pilot, and the stock main of 178. All they had to do was read the manual……….

Exhaust: CN had to make the point that the HBG was much louder "to their ears" than the other bikes. However, they said, it was legal just barely. Hmmmm, didn't see any DB testing going on there. And for that matter, one bike, had to have it's muffler insert drilled out before the test, and it's throttle stop changed out. Why? was it un-ridable?

"Goofy Ergo's": I think the goofiest thing about that comment is CN's inability to recognize that the top triple clamp has four different positions to mount the bars in front to rear. While I believe it's competition with the exception of the KTM, has a fixed postion for the bar mounts.

Suspension: The article doesn't talk at all about any adjustments, or checking the stock settings, made to the suspension, such as sag, clicker settings or adjustments. And in the overall comparison chart it would lead you to believe that the Husaberg has no adjustability in it's suspension components. While all the others are “fully adjustableâ€Â
 
I told ya'll the Kawasaki was gonna win the CN shootout.

CN USED to be good in the pre-internet days because it came out every week and was the quickest way to find out detailed race results.

I cancelled my subscription to CN years ago when my issues showed up weeks late, many times not even in chronological order. The blamed it on the Post Office, which was probably right, partially.

Anyway, I guess they are trying to broaden their horizons (and subscriptions) by now doing "shootouts". The review seems about like I expected.

Husaberg dealers who actually have demo rides and who ride and race themselves are the ones who will get through to the magazine "believe what you read" crowd. Look at the success of some of the dealers who support this site and the activities associated with this site.

Ya just gotta ride one (that is set up right!) to see.
 
they never mention the CRF 250X valves never. American mags are rags.

I vote my check book. I buy Husaberg.
 
I have been the owner four 501's best all around bikes I have rode in forty years of riding. An '08' 550 is what I hope to buy next.
What I look for in a great all around (desert and mountain ) bike
Fuel capacity ( minimum of two and a half gallons) 2-3/4 to 3 gallons is great!! I could care less if the tank is a 1/2 inch wider, how good would you have to be to to gain an advantage here. Let the other bikes have the pretty skinny tanks give me reasonable capacity.
Husaberg has the best six speed ratios of the bikes tested for desert or mountains, it picks the speed up between shifts great unless you are Carmichael, he needs a tight racing ratio, The magazines try to convince us we need slim tanks and tight trans ratios, right side kick start and many other ingrained ideas.
If you like to ride, think for yourself, be careful what you read but the test are amusingly interesting.
Weight
fuel capacity
ground clearance
seat height
trans ratio (6 speed)
fuel mileage ( jetted right easy running I have got 55mpg running hard 35mpg)
great power( not two servere on delivery)
This is what I believe makes a great all around bike!
I find it interesting the magazines always make an issue about the left side kickstarter even when they have e-start the writers are brain washed into thinking there is only one way to build a bike, they are not thinking for them self!! Left side work fine if you ever need it!
What a goofy statement! about the ergo's of the bike.
ergonomics should ALWAYS be set up for your riding ability and style ask any of the great riders!!
The Husaberg has all the important stuff to start with, things we can't change, great weight ,low center of gravity,trans, engine and other thing, to many to list.
Think about maintenance, dirt bikes need alot of it, the berg is by far the easiest to maintain, do a field strip on these other bikes to get the water out if you drop it in a river or you need to change jetting.
Now I feel better
have a great ride
Haskell in Idaho
 
Guys, you are unbelievable!

A Husaberg in Cycle news!!! WOW!!! I thought I could hear Deck The Hall in the background!!!

They say it's a good bike! They say it's a racing machine! They say it's a very different type of bike, lots of power, higher rev, full of goodies, 50-state legal, etc...

And you whine because they don't pick it as the winner and make a couple wrong statements?!?

I mean they could have picked 4 Japanese, 1 KTM, 1 Gas Gas and 1 Husky before even considering even looking at the Husaberg.

I am very happy with the CN test. I cannot be the only one?!?
 
Very Good Post Dale!

When the Fe 450 is used for its intended design it is as good as the rest of the bikes.
I think many of the So Cal testers are hard core Moto guys and some of the points are valid if that is what you race.( ONLY AN OFF ROAD GUY SHOULD BE IN THIS TEST) I do Moto,Enduros,and Gps so it is hard to find any bike that can bridge that gap. That said the FC 550 with the 6 speed installed is awesome for a guy that rides multiple disciplines. If it was a real test as you mentioned it would have had more meaningful statements. It is very clear that CN is slanted and it is easy to see when they never mention the valve munching Honda's. It is good to see them making an effort and in time they Will come around. I think this post by Dale is so insightful that it should be sent to the Editor of CN.
People just want to poke at the Bergs at times and I am not sure why? Give the Moto guys a hot 450 an a thiner tank on each of the versions FE/FC and it will still go on.
It was good to see the 07 FE 450 is now considered fast by CN and in race ready condition.
 

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