The original battery is shot and it never did seem to have good cranking power. What would be a good battery to go with? Of course it has to be an exact fit to get in the very tight compartment. Thank You!
Battery recommendation for 2011 FE 570
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Two questions. Would that battery be a direct match in terms of size? And do regular battery charges work with this type (lithium) of battery? Thanks You!
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It's pretty much an exact match for the battery box!
Re. chargers: You do not want a lead-acid trickle charger on these batteries. (However I believe that EarthX batteries are less sensitive to these than other LiFePO4 batteries as they have a full protection board embedded).
But you also don't need a trickle charger for these as they effectively don't self-discharge at all. They don't discharge just by sitting. So if the bike is going in storage - and you'd usually want to have it on a trickle charger with a lead-acid in it - then with a LiFePO4 battery you'd just pop the seat and disconnect one battery terminal and it won't discharge at all.
Non-trickle "lead-acid" charging does work (and so the bike's battery charging system does work to charge these batteries). It's just the particular and specific thing of lead-acid trickle charging which isn't compatible. So it has been nothing to worry about in my experience. Might seem more serious than it is because of how many words I've spent explaining it
but it's more that it's a little specific and tricky to explain
Re. chargers: You do not want a lead-acid trickle charger on these batteries. (However I believe that EarthX batteries are less sensitive to these than other LiFePO4 batteries as they have a full protection board embedded).
But you also don't need a trickle charger for these as they effectively don't self-discharge at all. They don't discharge just by sitting. So if the bike is going in storage - and you'd usually want to have it on a trickle charger with a lead-acid in it - then with a LiFePO4 battery you'd just pop the seat and disconnect one battery terminal and it won't discharge at all.
Non-trickle "lead-acid" charging does work (and so the bike's battery charging system does work to charge these batteries). It's just the particular and specific thing of lead-acid trickle charging which isn't compatible. So it has been nothing to worry about in my experience. Might seem more serious than it is because of how many words I've spent explaining it
but it's more that it's a little specific and tricky to explain
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2.5 years ago I bought a 2011 Husaberg FE390 (LOVE it!). The battery died the day after I bought it. After asking around, I bought a Lithium battery. It does NOT fit, mechanically - they give you foam inserts to fill in the gaps -do so tightly. It has been flawless and is still going strong. (Also VERY light weight.) I just finished 436 miles of the TransAmerica trail (had to be street legal) and the battery did fine over rough terrain on mountain passes in Colorado, etc. Even had to jump start another bike on the trip. His battery died and he is now installing a lithium battery in his 2010 FE 390. Strongly recommended! - HusaGeezer.
2.5 years ago I bought a 2011 Husaberg FE390 (LOVE it!). The battery died the day after I bought it. After asking around, I bought a Lithium battery. It does NOT fit, mechanically - they give you foam inserts to fill in the gaps -do so tightly. It has been flawless and is still going strong. (Also VERY light weight.) I just finished 436 miles of the TransAmerica trail (had to be street legal) and the battery did fine over rough terrain on mountain passes in Colorado, etc. Even had to jump start another bike on the trip. His battery died and he is now installing a lithium battery in his 2010 FE 390. Strongly recommended! - HusaGeezer.
for 2 years I have a JMT model : HJTZ7S-FP :
2.42 Ah
29 Wh
Manufacturer claimed CCA: 150 A
SAE as measured by JMP battery tester: 230 A
DIN as measured by JMP battery tester: 210 A
EN as measured by JMP battery tester: 130 A
no particular problem
2.42 Ah
29 Wh
Manufacturer claimed CCA: 150 A
SAE as measured by JMP battery tester: 230 A
DIN as measured by JMP battery tester: 210 A
EN as measured by JMP battery tester: 130 A
no particular problem
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Joined Jul 2016
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Australia, Beechworth, Vic.
Out here in Aus I use the SSB lithium at 220cca. Direct fit.
On a few occasions I’ve had the jump start. I use a small start pack off EBay. I cut the large alligator clips off, fitted eye terminals and it’s permanently mounted to the battery so the connector pops out from underneath the frame rail. I bought more of these connectors off AliExpress and made more leads for the other bikes. This has been so handy particularly when I’m up in the high country doing a multi day trip and the battery has gone flat from charging phone and gps etc.
On a few occasions I’ve had the jump start. I use a small start pack off EBay. I cut the large alligator clips off, fitted eye terminals and it’s permanently mounted to the battery so the connector pops out from underneath the frame rail. I bought more of these connectors off AliExpress and made more leads for the other bikes. This has been so handy particularly when I’m up in the high country doing a multi day trip and the battery has gone flat from charging phone and gps etc.
As I have seen your input and knowledge in quite a few battery threads maybe you have an answer to this? I did the mistake of buying a shorai a few years ago so when that battery died I ended up with the shorai charger. Can I use that charger on other batteries, like the one you use?It's pretty much an exact match for the battery box!
Re. chargers: You do not want a lead-acid trickle charger on these batteries. (However I believe that EarthX batteries are less sensitive to these than other LiFePO4 batteries as they have a full protection board embedded).
But you also don't need a trickle charger for these as they effectively don't self-discharge at all. They don't discharge just by sitting. So if the bike is going in storage - and you'd usually want to have it on a trickle charger with a lead-acid in it - then with a LiFePO4 battery you'd just pop the seat and disconnect one battery terminal and it won't discharge at all.
Non-trickle "lead-acid" charging does work (and so the bike's battery charging system does work to charge these batteries). It's just the particular and specific thing of lead-acid trickle charging which isn't compatible. So it has been nothing to worry about in my experience. Might seem more serious than it is because of how many words I've spent explaining it
Joined Nov 2012
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Iceland
I would think so yes! Practically all of these lightweight in-bike batteries are LiFePO4, and the differences are essentially cell quality and the protection modules (which may or may not include fuse action, over/undercharging, cell balancing). As far as I know, LiFePO4 cells are very stable and docile, so I would conclude that all “12V” / 4S LiFePo4 chargers work for all such batteries. And almost any lead-acid charger that isn’t doing trickle charging, which I believe is because the charger will “fight” the battery as it reacts differently than a lead-acid to a lead-acid trickle charge strategy the charger uses. (I do believe that a good protection module might protect against the negative effects of lead-acid trickle charging, but am not sure.)
It's pretty much an exact match for the battery box!
Re. chargers: You do not want a lead-acid trickle charger on these batteries. (However I believe that EarthX batteries are less sensitive to these than other LiFePO4 batteries as they have a full protection board embedded).
But you also don't need a trickle charger for these as they effectively don't self-discharge at all. They don't discharge just by sitting. So if the bike is going in storage - and you'd usually want to have it on a trickle charger with a lead-acid in it - then with a LiFePO4 battery you'd just pop the seat and disconnect one battery terminal and it won't discharge at all.
Non-trickle "lead-acid" charging does work (and so the bike's battery charging system does work to charge these batteries). It's just the particular and specific thing of lead-acid trickle charging which isn't compatible. So it has been nothing to worry about in my experience. Might seem more serious than it is because of how many words I've spent explaining it
Thank you for all the help! I'll go with the EarthX. What does the protection circuit do/mean?
Joined Feb 2005
177 Posts | 52+
Perth Western Australia
Lithium Battery,
I have a SSB 170cca, had it for 3-4 yrs , been faultless in my bike.
Lithium batteries is a whole new ball game. I wont buy AGM or other any more, sick of the short life and weight of them.
Not sure about all lithium battery make ups ,chemistries or manufacturers, but I am lead to believe lithium batteries do not like to be over charged , or accept heavy charges from below or around 0 degree Celsius , they do not like excessive heat like engine bays either.
They should have a control module built into the manufactured batteries , this controls the upper voltage cut off when being charged, they don't like over charging or being completely discharged either, so the control module will have a low voltage cut off as well ,so it does not harm the battery and gets most life out of it. There is also individual cells in them , they will have individual cell voltage monitoring or cell balancing , this keeps the individual cells charging or discharging on an even keel so to speak all together.
I think the most stable of lithium make ups is the Lithium phosphate LIPO4. Lithium will also sit on a shelf for many years holding the same voltage without being charged or trickled charged. It does not have to be fully charged to be stored , it does not effect the life of the battery.
The lithium battery has no resistance , so it should accept charge 20% better than AGM or lead acid also. ( basically in theory, you could charge a lithium battery in a very short time)
Others say and I tend to agree, they like a bulk charge and do not like smart chargers or multiply phases of charging. Things like float and equalisation are not the best for them from what others have commented on. Bulk charge is the way to go for maximum life and when it reaches its max safe voltage the module should cut off the charge source.
They are a very high amp discharging battery also potentially, and will accept high amp charging currents. However on manufactured batteries they have protection in them and will be limited to what can be discharged , such as 100-150amps perhaps in the module.
To show lithium batteries do have modules in them with cut outs, ever discharged a lithium cordless drill or tool?, you will notice it will discharge to a certain voltage and stop or cut out all of a sudden, unlike older battery drills used to run dead flat!
Lead Acid/Agm battery = 500 cycles down to 12v ( 50%)discharge, life expectancy
LIPO4 = 7000 cycles down to 70% discharge.
I have been researching larger lithium batteries( prismatic cells) for 4 odd months and have built a custom 160amp hour pack for camping. It is fantastic , a little expensive to build , but its a life time battery pack if looked after it.
Do the lithium batteries blow up ? They sure do! Certain chemical make ups will
However the Lithium phosphate LIPO4 make up is quite stable to a degree , if it wasn't there would be a lot of people with ears burnt off or missing. Your mobile phones have simular batteries , same as all the tradies 18v tools.
Don't just take my word for it ,as I am not by any means qualified to talk to much on them , read up on them , quite interesting stuff.
Hope this helps.
I have a SSB 170cca, had it for 3-4 yrs , been faultless in my bike.
Lithium batteries is a whole new ball game. I wont buy AGM or other any more, sick of the short life and weight of them.
Not sure about all lithium battery make ups ,chemistries or manufacturers, but I am lead to believe lithium batteries do not like to be over charged , or accept heavy charges from below or around 0 degree Celsius , they do not like excessive heat like engine bays either.
They should have a control module built into the manufactured batteries , this controls the upper voltage cut off when being charged, they don't like over charging or being completely discharged either, so the control module will have a low voltage cut off as well ,so it does not harm the battery and gets most life out of it. There is also individual cells in them , they will have individual cell voltage monitoring or cell balancing , this keeps the individual cells charging or discharging on an even keel so to speak all together.
I think the most stable of lithium make ups is the Lithium phosphate LIPO4. Lithium will also sit on a shelf for many years holding the same voltage without being charged or trickled charged. It does not have to be fully charged to be stored , it does not effect the life of the battery.
The lithium battery has no resistance , so it should accept charge 20% better than AGM or lead acid also. ( basically in theory, you could charge a lithium battery in a very short time)
Others say and I tend to agree, they like a bulk charge and do not like smart chargers or multiply phases of charging. Things like float and equalisation are not the best for them from what others have commented on. Bulk charge is the way to go for maximum life and when it reaches its max safe voltage the module should cut off the charge source.
They are a very high amp discharging battery also potentially, and will accept high amp charging currents. However on manufactured batteries they have protection in them and will be limited to what can be discharged , such as 100-150amps perhaps in the module.
To show lithium batteries do have modules in them with cut outs, ever discharged a lithium cordless drill or tool?, you will notice it will discharge to a certain voltage and stop or cut out all of a sudden, unlike older battery drills used to run dead flat!
Lead Acid/Agm battery = 500 cycles down to 12v ( 50%)discharge, life expectancy
LIPO4 = 7000 cycles down to 70% discharge.
I have been researching larger lithium batteries( prismatic cells) for 4 odd months and have built a custom 160amp hour pack for camping. It is fantastic , a little expensive to build , but its a life time battery pack if looked after it.
Do the lithium batteries blow up ? They sure do! Certain chemical make ups will
However the Lithium phosphate LIPO4 make up is quite stable to a degree , if it wasn't there would be a lot of people with ears burnt off or missing. Your mobile phones have simular batteries , same as all the tradies 18v tools.
Don't just take my word for it ,as I am not by any means qualified to talk to much on them , read up on them , quite interesting stuff.
Hope this helps.
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