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auto decomp - fill me in?

Joined Nov 2001
17K Posts | 774+
Ely, England
under red alert in the doc i've tried to explain the facts as i know them after 2-hours of checking today.

in none of my parts books ('01, '02, '03, '04, '06) does it mention a new style decomp lobe, or does it mention a better spring.

i've no idea if the decomp was all 're-timed' either.

can anyone throw some light on the subject and while i'm here if you'd like to add to the info that would be great!

this is what i have:
The auto de-compression issue
This was for machines through from '01 to as late as '03. Essentially, the decomp lobe would wear down and not lift the exhaust valve the .040"(1mm) to release some compression while the engine turned under starting. There was also the problem that the lobe return spring would be either weak or unwound which equalled "ineffective". This meant the engine was trying to fight full compression. The partial cure at the time was to add a 'blob' of weld onto the decomp and then re-profile. Husadawg has some great photos

The auto de-comp. bleeds only a fraction of the trapped charge engaging near 85 BTDC and closing near 15 BTDC with a peak valve lift of less than .040". "E" Cranking compression should be roughly 130 PSI. (Lineaweaver)

In '03 Husaberg produced a new camshaft for the 650 and de-comp lobe, they produced another cam for the rest of the range but ommited it from the parts book. The new cam profiles appear to make life easier for the valve train. It's easier to follow by reading through an '04 parts manual than an '03!!!

In '04, everything got new part numbers and a new cam again for the 650.


regards

Taffy
 
it must be that you speak English as a first language :twisted: that you can explain this much better than me. thanks
 
Some info for ya Taff:

Yes, they have changed- or is it simply manufacturing tolerances ??

The early decomp fitted in my '53' cam has an overall cam height (the bit that rests in the exhaust lobe cutout) of 6.51mm, measured on the small unworn area that does not rotate in cut out or touch exhaust roller- so the measured part is still the lifting tip as Husaberg machined it, but with no user wear.

When Husaberg supplied me with a cheap '08' cam, it came supplied with a decomp unit, and that one measures in at 6.56mm. So it is .05mm, or .002" larger than the earlier one.

To the naked eye, both are identical.And maybe they are supposed to be, or maybe Husaberg knew that small amount of difference would help ??

I have always used the one supplied in the '53' cam, as this came supplied in a warranty motor supplied by Husaberg and the decompressor had been modified either at factory/importer or dealer level with a spot of weld under weight cutout to improve decomp lift which allowed my 650 to start cold on the button, as long as the battery was charged fully

Heres a pic of the welded weight-

http://www.husaberg.org/index.php?set_a ... _photo.php

Hope this is useful. :?:[/url]
 
hi ausberg

well it does and it doesn't!

.5mm is .020" and could not be mistaken for tolerance changes so i'll grant you that they must have done it at the factory and off the line. but when did it happen?

i've had a PM from dale that appears to indicate that when they went to the steel camwheel the de comp weight had to be shortened in order not to hit the shoulder of the cam?

i'm sure joe and others have checked their parts books and like me, none of you can see a year change to the part(s)?

regards

Taffy
 
Peter at HMS told me the change to the differrent decompressor in 01 was due to the older model breaking when missing gears or over revving during air time. Older decompressor was a bit beefier and wore less though. 01-03 decompressors interchange, but the 03 comes out of the package dark in color rather than the shiny like the old ones because it is heat treated better to last longer. He told me that he always simply installs the 03 unit (rather than weld the old worn one) with complete success.
dan
 
ok dan i'll put that and the colour change in the doc....

thanks

Taffy
 

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