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Spec tires for Moto GP? Lets just halt tire development and competition among the makers throughout the season. Guess the Michelin crowd has the most pull. Might as well have a spec bike too.
dan

saw that about the tyres in moto gp. believe it is effectively rossi and pedrosa camps that are the main pushing for the one make tyre rule.

cypher said:

saw that about the tyres in moto gp. believe it is effectively rossi and pedrosa camps that are the main pushing for the one make tyre rule.

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Rossi is not happy with his Michelin tires and feels he is trailing guys like De Puniet because their Bridgestones are better.

Same thing happened in F1 and I think it had a positive impact overall (except for Renault, who had based their chassis around the tires behavior).

Side note, I did not renew my AMA membership because I do not think it was doing enough to preserve riding areas and was not stepping to the plate and weigh in the debate against those big environmental groups who somehow decided to turn potential allies into enemies.

As for the racing rules, I always detested the production rules, which is a gift to the Japanese manufacturers and basically turned the Euro bikes into "exotics".

To me, they are just a bunch of Washington hobbyists who have lost perspective and has alienated its base (unless they think that orthodontists parading as bikers on custom hogs is their base).

Might be the Michelins, but Rossi seems to have lost his nerve and Pedrosa crashes a bit too often to nail down a championship. Anyway, Stoner kicked their tails. Have to agree that AMA is losing the battle keeping our riding areas open. Maybe if they forget about the racing, they can address the land right issue better. Somehow I doubt it as the Bureaucracy seems to be too deep. Their pockets are probably getting deeper too.
dan

RE: Get It?

My understanding of this situation is that the AMA has recognized they they are not equiped to be promoters of motorcycle events.(except for supercross which is working good or too lucrative to give up)The fact that they are the sanctioning body often conflicts with their ability to be promoters.They have decided to do what they do best...collect money and leave the work to independent promoters.This leaves definite opportunities for independent promoters again to be involved in professional motorcycle racing as series promoters again .
For me all I want is for AMA pro superbike racing to come back to the northeast...I miss the racing at Laconia ....sometimes change can be good!

As an offroad rider, the only thing that AMA offers for me has been the ISDE qualifiers, which were required to get a spot on the USA ISDE team. And even at that, the AMA would not allow clubs to put on national events inspite of clubs wanting to put on the races. The GNCC and WORCS series have filled the gap the AMA allowed to happen for offroad racers, and guess what, now offroad racers can make a living by racing. So other than the effect that this could have on the ISDE team selection and support, I don't see much to be concerned about. In fact, I suspect that we may actually see the enduro promotion group take the next step and make a WEC type enduro series in the USA that proves to be a breeding ground for ISDE hopefuls (Caselli is not the only fast guy in the USA, he just happens to love ISDE enought to foot the bill to race with the worlds best).

LINEAWEAVER said:

OK, I did my part.
Make of it what you will.

Note to Bruce:
Understandably you can't see the monster. Yet!
In it's den I have seen what is coming.

Nova Scotia. FIM, right?

Back to the road.

Cheers!
Dale

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Dale,
You are quite correct ,all I know of the AMA changes are what I have read.Change is coming for sure,if ithere is a monster we will all see it soon enough.
As far as being under the FIM arm in Canada, nothing could be futher from the truth.We are in an unfortunate position of dealing with competing sanctioning bodies in most ares of the country.The CMA is FIM connected but is the weakest of the organizations,The CMRC(canadian motorcycle racing club)sanctions most of the important motocross and dirt track events in eastern Canada as well as the national series..Quebec has it own organization FMQ(the federation motorsports of Quebec) and acts as the body for all motorcyclists in Quebec both competing or not.
The national superbike series is promoted privatly under the name of PMP"professional motorsports productions" and is owned by Colin Fraser"in Ontario.
Being canadian we have little unity and when we really need a national power to act on the behalf of motorcycle rights in areas such as land use,insurance questions etc we have only a selection of self interest groups.
The manufacterers also have their own organization referred to as the MIC(motorcycle industry council)...since they are self interest group and were looking for credability with government they created and funded a new group called the MCC(motorcyclists confederation of canada) and recuited clubs to join them.
If you are not confused yet you should be...oh yes we have our act together here in Canuckville....who is the FIM again???

LINEAWEAVER said:

OK, I did my part.
Make of it what you will.

Note to Bruce:
Understandably you can't see the monster. Yet!
In it's den I have seen what is coming.

Nova Scotia. FIM, right?

Back to the road.

Cheers!
Dale

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Dale et al
I do not take the passing of AMA racing lightly. There will be long reaching repercussions. The AMA did keep national competition a reality. GNCC and WORCS clearly split the country down the middle, but made racing less of a financial challenge. What the future holds, especially for national level competition and the prestige of a national champion. The local MX track went away from AMA sanctioning quite a few years ago, and getting an AMA national has been very difficult. I don't know if other disciplines (non off-road) will be as successful as offroad has been. I do wonder what the monster is.

dsducati said:

Might be the Michelins, but Rossi seems to have lost his nerve and Pedrosa crashes a bit too often to nail down a championship. Anyway, Stoner kicked their tails. Have to agree that AMA is losing the battle keeping our riding areas open. Maybe if they forget about the racing, they can address the land right issue better. Somehow I doubt it as the Bureaucracy seems to be too deep. Their pockets are probably getting deeper too.
dan

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errrr ... give rossi a ducati and some bridgestones , at this level equipment is the key .

the yamaha is slow and the tyres are :thumbdown: