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A little more pump seal information

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idaho us
A little more water pump seal information
My 2010 570 started to loose a little coolant about 50cc after about 5months and 3700miles, just been adding coolant after every ride, I kept telling my self I didn’t have time to fix it, so today I installed the seals . Takes about an hour. Should have done it months ago!! There has been some very helpful information on this topic about seal instillation, you shoul read before replacing them. Husaberg must of had the new guy install these seals in the case mine were installed wrong.
I did remove the clutch side case cover, had to see the workmanship.
Husaberg parts, under the cover look great very well made.
The water pump shaft was perfect no damage, on the Yamahas and Hondas I’ve had, when the pump seal leaks the shaft is scored and needs replaced.
The pump impeller has two pumping blades the inner blades look like a little compressor wheel in a turbo charge, cool stuff
Now, why did it leak??
Between the two seals there was sand. I rode a lot of sand washes all winter in Idaho and Nevada.
The sand entered through the weep hole and accelerated the seal lip wear, sand and seals don’t get along ask your fork seals, this is just my thoughts (It’s dangerous for me to think to much).
Fix
Lock tite and lightly tap a small tube into the weep hole put a vent hose on the tube run it down the engine, it will still weep coolant if there is a problem and this will keep the dirt and sand from entering the seal area
Have a great ride
Haskell in Idaho
 
ddi you install the water seal with the spring on the water pressure side?
it's shown wrong (seal on weep hole side) in the parts manual also
 
Hey Bowser
Yes the garder spring in the seal should face the pressure (the water pump)
The garder spring in the seal on the engine oil side should face the oil
In forty five plus years in the automotive business and instructor this has always been the way to install a seal
 
A couple cents here:

I believe that Haskell is right about the book, and the original seals being installed incorrectly. It has always been my experience that the spring faces the fluid it is sealing.

The nice thing about the new seals is that unlike the last generations seals which had the metal outer, the seals for the new motor have a pretty thick rubber coating over the metal on the outer ring.

Although I took the whole clutch side cover off to change out not only the leaking water pump seal, but, for good measure the inner oil seal, I believe that with careful use of a seal pick one could change both seals by just removing the water pump housing, and the impeller. When I changed mine I was able to push both seals in with my fingers, the oil seal required the use of an appropriate driver to get it seated, but the water pump seal required nothing more than firm pressure from my fingers. Doing it with the shaft in place would of course require the use of a driver, but, you'd be able to start them with your fingers, and then with finger pressure on the driver, push them into place.

I found the same type of debris in the area between the two seals that Haskell did. I found the same thing on my 04 550 too. I tried to get a fitting in there which did not work, with the same idea of hanging a short piece of tubing on it as well, but, did not think using a piece of tubing. Which has got to make you wonder how long the seals would have lasted if it were not for the sand and junk in there.

Haskell, for the benefit of our readers, could you post the size of the piece of tubing that you used?

Thanks,

Dale
 
Hi Dale
I did this also on my 501 husabergs had three of them
the tube size is 1/8 inch or 3mm will work with a little epoxy about 1inch long or 25mm tap it in about 5/16" or 8mm
I use brass tubing from a hobby shop or hardware store the brass conforms to the hole easy but steel tubing would work
the hole in the tubing is big enough to show a pump seal leak
alittle more information

Simple but confusing

Part # 0760102455 is shown as the 10x24x5.5 the one with the three dogs or legs on it, the 5.5mm is the width of the seal including the dogs

Parts book shows this seal next to the pump impeller
The factory put this seal next to engine oil, spring facing oil

Part #0760102440 is shown as the 10x24x4 parts book shows this seal on the engine oil side
The factory put this seal next to the water pump with spring facing away from water pump this is WRONG
Confused yet
The dogs are so the seals won’t push together and block the weep hole
The pump seal spring should face toward the pump
And the engine oil seal spring should face the oil
I don’t think it matters want part number you put where but it is important to get the springs facing the right direction.
I put the seal with the dogs in as the engine oil seal this is how the factory had it and the seal without the dogs on the pump side with the spring facing the pump this was opposite of the way the factory installed the seal
Hope this makes the seal confusion a little clearer.
 
I have a question about removing the impeller.
Do you just pry it out, I removed the nut and expected for it to just pull off, did I miss something?

Thanks in advance.
 

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