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570 and fuel pump hose issues

Joined Nov 2012
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Guys, please help me out here :)

I changed fuel pump this summer, however I can not make the hose stay on the pump flange for any length of time :/ I used a submersible normal type of hose that I know is submersible along with a standard hose clamp, hose is definately submersible as I use the same item on other bikes with success.

Questions:
-1 Is the oem pump flange flush? I did a mistake and trew the oem in the bin, bad descision I know.
-2 looking at the spare parts list there is a 'filter kit' available including the hose from the pump to the filter, how do the workshops mount that? Is it the heat up expand and then pinch cooling down idea?
-3 Any other source that carries a plastic hose that I can mount my self? (Have access to a full workshop while not for bergs)

The pump outlet is around 8mm so I figured I thread it, but nope it still wont stay on.
Fed up with the bike dropping out after a while and soon races are coming up and I cant have this happening, so ANY help is much appreciated!

Filter kit #2 in this pic:

husa570_filter_kit.jpg
 
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Yup, I had the same problem when I installed a new California CycleWorks fuel pump. The hose they provide with the pump is slightly oversized, and because it's FI fuel line it's too stiff for a hose clamp to compress enough to stay on the pump - not even with an FI hose clamp.

I am not certain whether the hose barb on the pump is SAE and the hose they provided was metric, but what solved the problem was Helix Racing Products 5/16 inch inside diameter high pressure fuel line. It comes in three foot lengths, and it's Helix part number 0706-0191 for the clear line.

Also, a standard hose clamp is the wrong kind of clamp. You need a hose clamp that is specifically designed for high pressure fuel injection use. You can readily tell the difference - the correct kind of clamp has a bolt and a nut that tightens a solid band clamp, not the screw type with the band that has angled slits in it that the screw bears against.

Do not be afraid to crank down on the clamp. Tighten it, and then try to pull it off manually with your hands. If it slides on the pump's hose barb, it's not tight enough. Keep tightening until you can't budge it, because if you can make it slide dry then the pump can blow it off wet with the aid of vibration as the motor is running and the bike is under way.

Questions?


BTW, this should be under Fuel.
 
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Thanks for input!

I just tore it apart and the fuel hose was still on there firmly, but the #2 fuse was blown. I just assumed the hose had popped off as it happened couple of times before. So that means that threading the fuel pump outlet with 8mm cut is actually working for me, yay :)

Fingers crossed it was just a bad fuse...

/T
 
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Ah, an electrical issue. While you have it apart, I recommend you look for frayed/abraded insulation on all the wires that pertain to the fuel pump. Others here have had that problem. Look that fuel pump pigtail over real carefully. I've thought that if it's kinked badly enough it might cause internal breakage of the wires.

Let us know what you find!
 
Ah, bugger! Already put it together, buuuuut it will probably quit on me soon enough to pick it apart again :eek: Will follow your suggestion, tnx!
Edit: If I find the insulation bad, what is the suggested remedy? Replace wiring?
 
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If it's not too bad, a soldered and properly insulated repair should do fine. You'll need some small diameter shrink-wrap insulation to do the job right. Provided, of course, that you have some talent with a soldering gun.
 

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