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2002 fe400 hanging idle

Joined Apr 2017
22 Posts | 8+
Australia
Hi all,

My fe400 has a fcr mx 39 on it. The bike is new to me and has a major problem with hanging idle. It's either reving high, or stalling. It's a real nightmare to ride at the moment.

Where should I start?

Thanks, Chris
 
pretty sure that if you open the Pilot Screw underneath 'out' or anti-clockwise it will go. try half a turn at a time.

it's that easy!

Taffy
 
I've just done that. It keeps running with the fuel screw wound all the way in. How much play is acceptable in the slide? It can move up and down a little when it's in the idle position.
 
Can anyone comment on roughly what the jetting should be for 2000 feet?
 
I've just done that. It keeps running with the fuel screw wound all the way in. How much play is acceptable in the slide? It can move up and down a little when it's in the idle position.
Spray start gas around the carb. Especialy att the Rubber intake boot. And see if it revs up, if it does, it shouldnt! U have an airleak

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O also tryed spraying the intake boot on mine but not result . The boot looked old and brittle so I replaced it and my hanging idle went Away . mine was intermittent , some times it would hang sometimes not .
 
so you wound it in when I said to wind it out? aha......????

if with the screw all the way in the PJ is too big

Taffy
 
Remove the slide and clean it out, check for any rough surface on the slide and inside the carb. Yes when you turn the screw in it should drop and out will bring up idle but this should not give random idle problems as high idle to low idle and vise versa. It sounds like your slide is not returning and a broken spring and or weak spring can cause this. Checking for a air leak it is recommended to use propane such as a torch without flame and move it around to see if idle changes, starting fluid runs very hot when ignited and can cause damage if you have a large leak area. Do you see any gas running out of the vent tubes when running?
 
so you wound it in when I said to wind it out? aha......????

if with the screw all the way in the PJ is too big

Taffy

Yes I tried turning out. Eventually it started to die off. I then wound it in and it kept running with it all the way in.
 
Remove the slide and clean it out, check for any rough surface on the slide and inside the carb. Yes when you turn the screw in it should drop and out will bring up idle but this should not give random idle problems as high idle to low idle and vise versa. It sounds like your slide is not returning and a broken spring and or weak spring can cause this. Checking for a air leak it is recommended to use propane such as a torch without flame and move it around to see if idle changes, starting fluid runs very hot when ignited and can cause damage if you have a large leak area. Do you see any gas running out of the vent tubes when running?

I'm thinking it is a problem with the slide not returning back all the way. Which spring are you referring to? There is a lot of play where the arm joins to the slide, between the rollers and grooves. I guess the whole slide and arm assembly could do with being replaced. I have pulled everything off and carried out a very careful inspection, I'm confident that there is no air leak between the cylinder head, manifold and carby. There is no fuel coming out the vent tubes when running.
 
I've dropped the needle 2 clips positions, 2 from the bottom to 4 from the bottom. It's a lot better, but not perfect.

Jetting as follows.

Needle: stock?? Currently 4th clip from bottom
Main: 152
Slow: 45
Starter: 72
Leak: 105

Slow air jet: 100 (adjustable, 1 turn out)
Main air jet: 200
 
that main jet....look closely, it may be a 162 but 152 is borderline. I and a bunch of Suzuki DR lads from Colarado are the only ones to get down to 152MJ as I'm aware of?

try a 42PJ and have a 40 on stand by as i think it would like the 40 as well.

Taffy
 
that main jet....look closely, it may be a 162 but 152 is borderline. I and a bunch of Suzuki DR lads from Colarado are the only ones to get down to 152MJ as I'm aware of?

try a 42PJ and have a 40 on stand by as i think it would like the 40 as well.

Taffy

It's back together in the carby now. I'm pretty sure I was 152. What should the float height be? It was parallel with the carby housing. I just assumed it was correct.

Also dropping the needle has seemed to have made a big difference. I will test ride on the weekend.
 
the rim to the peak on a float should be 9mm exactly but they say plus or minus 0.5mm.

to count needle clips you should hold it with the point down and then count from the blunt end downwards towards the tip. C1 is at the top and leanest and C7 is at the bottom and richest.

Taffy
 
In that case, it was at c6 and I've changed it to c4.

Cheers for the float spec, I'll check it out.
 

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