2001 FX470e E Start

Hi there Heath,

I've got the twin to your bike, and it starts on the e-button, although I rarely use it to start cold.

Does it turn over quickly when you use the elec starter? If you pull the decomp and let it spin up, do you get a pop of any kind when you release it?

thanks,
json

You sound so close!
Do you know what pilot jet you've got? Going one size up or down can make all the difference in the world for the e-starter. Also try fiddling with your fuel mixture screw as 1/4 turn one way or the other can net different starting results.

Good luck,
log

I don't want to steal this thread as I am very much thinking of buying a FX470E. How do you guys like them and do you feel they are very far off the newer bikes?

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@bhbzx7: I think log's right that you're probably dealing with a fuel issue now. If you've got it turning over well and you've got a strong spark, I would play with the carburetion a little. I think if you do, you'll be surprised when it finally just decides to start

thanks,
json

justa cheap easy fast try
Dribble a little gas in the carb boot.
Try the button
If it starts right up you need a bigger piloet

bhbzx7 said:

OK , I've went through the shop manual twice and can find the carb settings for altitude, I'm at about 1500 ft above sea level. Any recommendations as to a good starting point ? (no pun intended)

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Forget what the manual says!
Pull the carb apart and document what's in there ie: pilot jet, main jet (which really has nothing to do with starting), and needle clip setting. Also count how many turns it takes to bottom out your fuel mixture screw. Example; if it takes 2.5 turns clockwise till it bottoms out, try turning it back out just 2 turns then try e-starting (with a warmed engine).

If you have a large pilot like a 45, you'll want to start trying smaller sizes. 42, 40, 38 etc. These bikes seem to like to e-start on a fairly lean signal.

If your pilot is a 33, you'll want to step up another size. (It's a good idea to try one small step at a time when dealing with jets imo).

Always kick start the bike when cold. Use the e-start only after she's warmed up.

log

Yes I to have had the problem - it took 2 years and just under $3000 to find. Same problem easy to kick start , plenty of spark , starter turns over well.
If you put a multi meter on the plug capand give it a kick the voltage will be spot on - push the starter button and the voltage just wont quite be enough even though the starter motor is spinning at the right speed.
The answer to the problem is the starter motor free wheel bearing part no. 250 245-01 .This is meant to free wheel when the motor is running and engage when the starter motor spins.What I found with mine was that the bearing was slightly slipping when turning the motor over and with the motor running binding up and spinning the starter motor all the time.
Even though the bearing was poked it still felt alright to spin and turn aound and would grab like normal when spun by hand but under load in the motor it wouldnt work.
To try to fix this problem I'f fitted a new decompressor to the end of the cam , had sparks rewind the stator asy, fitted a new keihien carb ,bigger batteries and done all the updates as mentioned on this web site.
Since doing this the bike starts first push on the button hot or cold no problem at all.
Relpace this bearing before fiddling aroung with the carb ( it only costs $42) - If the bike starts 1-3 kicks with the kick start carburation is not the problem.

Hope this helps - good luck