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06 fe450

Joined Aug 2006
178 Posts | 0+
Gunnison Colorado
I recently bought a new 2006 fe450 and pretty much love it, wonderfully designed. I did research before buying, and have used the "DOC" and search functions here on UHE. My berg has @15+ hours and 340 miles and has been reliable so far. I have owned it three weeks and have changed the oil 5 times(S.S. oil filter :D ) My questions for you berg veterans are....
1) Boils over always on technical single track with in 2 miles. that is first and second gear clutching with 13/52 gearing. Threads i have read and my dealer (FRITZ KADLEC) says its common and not worry and keep coolant at the specified level. We both are not fans of the fans. Any suggestions other than ride faster?? :roll:
2) Chain hits frame occasionally, I set tension as per service manual(tight to loose in spec), and recommendations here on UHE. Will it last(frame)??
3) Some of the engine detonation threads have me concerned. should I be?? as I ride solo much of the time and a 20 mile walk to the road would be lame riding an $8k work of art.

Please don't flame me for my concerns, I know all man made creations break from time to time. I Love the bike and want be confident in it like my yzf250, which my berg spanks :D all over the mountains except for the above issues?!.
 
I run a iridium plug , correct heat range , engine ice coolant, dale's jetting kit for sure.

I have a 06 FE650E, No Boil yet.....

Will get My new FS650E this week , same thing for it
New plug , Engine Ice, Since it's a euro model no change on jetting

Gee-Bee

No Fan for me either......
 
chain always hits the frame. could try split link on the INSIDE face?

fritz is right about the coolant level. you could also retorque the cylinder head down. if i were you i would torque the two that you can see and if there is any movement then i would (doesn't it go without saying!) do the two under the cam cover.

have you used the bleed screw on the right of the head?

also, go to viking's gallery on the left of the screen. he has a radiator overflow and cap tip for you.

regards

Taffy
 
I wonder if your clutching is building heat. I weigh 205lbs, ride an 06 450 geared 13/50, and seldom need to clutch it. I ride some very tecnical singletrack. I am now running without thermostat, was trying to get rid of a carb heat problem, you might try no thermostat. I also recomend bleeding the cooling system on the righthand side of head. My chain never contacts frame, don't know why yours would. I would certainly put some clear plastic guard, zip ties, or something on frame to protect. I would ride my 450 to hell and back(might have done that last Sunday), no worries about dependability. Best bike I have ever thrown a leg over, love it! I have about 1200 miles now. You may want to see my thread on carb heat, it may apply to you. Buzzard
 
Thanks for the replies.
1) re-torque head bolts-good
2) Bleed screw, definitely air-locked
3) Rad cap inner sealing service had silver Paint evidence and uneven, (really cooked her yesterday, steam BATH) Maybe it wasn't sealing as designed. feels/looks smooth now, we'll see.
4) t-stat, I thought of that, but my training and experience as an auto/diesel technician tell me not yet. Stable block temps improve performance.

I believe # 2&3 will go a long way eliminate my issues. The trail that does the boil over event is the #478 fossil ridge trail, clutching through the talus fields. It's the toughest one in my back yard.

By the way, these bikes kick start easy too, wow! 8O
 
jzfe could you please explain why your not a fan of the fan?

cheeseberger is from your area maybe he could help?

I know fritz & he probably keeps the air moving through the radiators

well enough even in the tightest of trails! Good luck keep us posted!
 
One more notion about boiling over. I worked on a friends bike, an 04 550, and it's boiling problem was related to the radiator cap seat in the radiator. It was uneven. I actually leveled it using a small rawhide mallet and a blunt drift. Stopped the coolant loss. Also, I do not recommend running without the thermostat permanently, but a test run without it might shed light on whether it might be defective. Buzzard
 
Yes Fritz rides ALOT faster than me (DUH) as I am A ROOKIE. I was using him as my local Husaberg Expert. My issue is with what could be considered the RELIABILITY of the bike. I have a an 03 yz250f with taco'd radiators and a rekluse and it NEVER overheats. SO, in my limited experience with motorcycles(xr250, yz250f) the berg seems questionable in these conditions. If some of the issues are caused by me then I will adapt, but if poor quality parts or engineering are causing it, that is unfortunate and disappointing. Everything can be fixed. When FORD's 6.0 diesel platform was launched the repeated reliability issues caused many ford truck owner's to switch brands. As Ford trained tech, I felt their pain. 50k for a truck that doesn't go from point a to b without repeated trips to the shop.

But anywho, thanks again, I am pursuing all your suggestions and I REALLY appreciate all your help.
jz
 
feathering a clutch is the fastest way to overheat any bike. The Husaberg auxilary fan will help but expect your battery to last one ride only and will need a good three hour charge afterwards. I have the fan kit but find little use for it in western woods as I never find the need to feather the 450. I used to own a 05 TE510 also and that big boy needed feathering in technical up hill rocky stuff or else it would launch to the moon on me. Steamed it a few times in tight goat trails during hotter summer ride days. The Husaberg Fe450e is more tame and also lighter, I can pop it out and up over a rocky junky spot with just the slightest feathering if any at all, mostly as I said I never feather the 450 and it has never boiled.

I'm looking to sell my fan kit if you want it. was $148 new, if you want it, make an reasonable offer and I'll ship it to you.
 
I retested and so far so good. Although ambient temps were 20-25 degrees cooler. The poor radiator cap fitment(paint on rad) must have been a contributing factor. The t-stat functions normally(warm it up, it opens up). I shun the fan because some berg owners report no overheating issues, and my riding style is by no means "extreme". Having said that, wouldn't a fan be a band-aide covering up the real issue? Clutching is necessary, that's why its there. This leads me to believe that my bike has a minor (it runs awesome!!)issue that is unneccessary. Don't know how I missed the bleeder :oops: , ask questions, live and learn.

Thanks again, i'll report(not that anybody cares) if i learn something new!
ride on :twisted:
 
When I installed the thermostat on my 04 550, I had to go through the bleeding process 3 times to get all of the air out.

Regards,

Joe
 
where is that bleed valve? looked at the picture in the owners manual and could not find said valve. picture was disorienting
 
infront of the cylinder head stud that you can see viewing from the right hand side. it'a a small screw.

regards

Taffy
 
JoeUSA said:
Bob,

See page 48 of your Owners Manual

Joe

thanks taffy and joe, but that picture on page 48 is kinda disorienting........It was of no help. I'll look again at the bike.
 

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