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eferm

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husaberg fs650e 2003

does anyone know wich one of the three yellow cables on the rectifier that should be connected to the blue cable from the stator?

my bike kills battery after battery... and when it has destroyed the new battery it only runs on idiling, if i use the trottle the engine dies..
 
hi mate look out for sparks he's the man ask him he will know

have a look on te owners doc

and welcome to the uhe
 
eferm

welcome to UHE mate.

go into the owners doc and look up electrics. in there is the correct connection for the 6 wires. i would also look at the wires on the regulator.

you'll find electrical diagram in the back of the owners manual which you can download for free from our downloads section.

regards

Taffy
 
eferm said:
husaberg fs650e 2003

does anyone know wich one of the three yellow cables on the rectifier that should be connected to the blue cable from the stator?

my bike kills battery after battery... and when it has destroyed the new battery it only runs on idiling, if i use the trottle the engine dies..
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Hi Eferm,

Welcome to the site mate, it would seem for some reason you have got a three phase regulator rectifier which is no good at all for the SEM alternator, the SEM stator runs two single phase circuits.
You should have a regulator for the lights which just regulates the AC from the stator and a regulator rectifier to charge the battery.
Both yellows are common to each other and the Blue from the stator goes to earth (ground).
I presume you bought the bike with the set up it has now?.
Can't understand the idle and cutting out thing the ignition is a completely different circuit to the Alternator, does the engine run OK with the Alternator wires disconnected?.
Hope this helps.

Regards

Sparks.
 
taffy:
i have checked the electrics in the owners manual and i can see that the 3 yellow cables sholud be connected to the 2 yellow and 1 blue from the stator but i cant see wich one that shold be connected to the blue one. alla 3 yellow cables look the same.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg

sparks:
i bought the bike like this, it worked when i tried it but then i got this problem. the former owner has replaced the regulator so im thinking maybe he has connected it wrong. i hade this problem one time before.
i replaced the stator and battery (new) and the bike ran great for 60km, now i have the same problem again and the battery is ded. i can´t reaload it.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg
one of these yellow should be connected to the blue one and the other 2 to the yellows but i cant find out wich is wich...
 
Is as follows: yellow into a double red, second yellow into a red/white, light blue into a brown, black into black and green into green.

yellows either way round will do.

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy said:
Is as follows: yellow into a double red, second yellow into a red/white, light blue into a brown, black into black and green into green.

yellows either way round will do.

regards

Taffy
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this doesn´t sound like my electrics discription in the book, i will try to take a photo of it and show you
 
eferm2 said:
taffy:
i have checked the electrics in the owners manual and i can see that the 3 yellow cables sholud be connected to the 2 yellow and 1 blue from the stator but i cant see wich one that shold be connected to the blue one. alla 3 yellow cables look the same.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg

sparks:
i bought the bike like this, it worked when i tried it but then i got this problem. the former owner has replaced the regulator so im thinking maybe he has connected it wrong. i hade this problem one time before.
i replaced the stator and battery (new) and the bike ran great for 60km, now i have the same problem again and the battery is ded. i can´t reaload it.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg
one of these yellow should be connected to the blue one and the other 2 to the yellows but i cant find out wich is wich...
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I'll tell you again my old mucker what you have there is a three phase regulator rectifier there and will not work with the SEM stator, not now not ever, you require two separate units a regulator for the lights and a regulator rectifer for the battery (single phase) comprende.

Regards

Sparks.
 
sparks said:
eferm2 said:
taffy:
i have checked the electrics in the owners manual and i can see that the 3 yellow cables sholud be connected to the 2 yellow and 1 blue from the stator but i cant see wich one that shold be connected to the blue one. alla 3 yellow cables look the same.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg

sparks:
i bought the bike like this, it worked when i tried it but then i got this problem. the former owner has replaced the regulator so im thinking maybe he has connected it wrong. i hade this problem one time before.
i replaced the stator and battery (new) and the bike ran great for 60km, now i have the same problem again and the battery is ded. i can´t reaload it.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg
one of these yellow should be connected to the blue one and the other 2 to the yellows but i cant find out wich is wich...
Click to expand...

I'll tell you again my old mucker what you have there is a three phase regulator rectifier there and will not work with the SEM stator, not now not ever, you require two separate units a regulator for the lights and a regulator rectifer for the battery (single phase) comprende.

Regards

Sparks.
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i hear you but at the same time im a little confused, this is a originalpart. check this sheet out (upper left corner)
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3312.jpg
and if you look in the spareparts catalog it is only one unit, just like this one. not 2.
please explain, sorry if im annoying...
/erik
 
Hi Erik,

Yes you are correct it is a standard unit for this year and I opplogise, but not come across this type on a Husaberg before, it looks like a standard three phase regulator rectifier.
But when you get all the colours the same it means that they are all common to each other that is why they are all the same colour, so it doesn't matter which the Blue goes to unless marked in some way.
This system doesn't have any AC feed because the indicator rely relies on a DC feed for it to function.
I would say you have a problem with the unit, this is why you have igntion problems the other feed from the unit is backed into the cdi, disconnect this wire and it should run OK, this feed is to aid starting off the lecky start.
When I'm wrong about some thing I like to think that I'm the first to hold my hand up and admit it, sorry mate :oops:

Regards

Sparks.
 
eferm2 said:
sparks said:
eferm2 said:
taffy:
i have checked the electrics in the owners manual and i can see that the 3 yellow cables sholud be connected to the 2 yellow and 1 blue from the stator but i cant see wich one that shold be connected to the blue one. alla 3 yellow cables look the same.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg

sparks:
i bought the bike like this, it worked when i tried it but then i got this problem. the former owner has replaced the regulator so im thinking maybe he has connected it wrong. i hade this problem one time before.
i replaced the stator and battery (new) and the bike ran great for 60km, now i have the same problem again and the battery is ded. i can´t reaload it.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg
one of these yellow should be connected to the blue one and the other 2 to the yellows but i cant find out wich is wich...
Click to expand...

I'll tell you again my old mucker what you have there is a three phase regulator rectifier there and will not work with the SEM stator, not now not ever, you require two separate units a regulator for the lights and a regulator rectifer for the battery (single phase) comprende.

Regards

Sparks.
Click to expand...

i hear you but at the same time im a little confused, this is a originalpart. check this sheet out (upper left corner)
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3312.jpg
and if you look in the spareparts catalog it is only one unit, just like this one. not 2.
please explain, sorry if im annoying...
/erik
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Hello Erik,

You are not annoying, your 2003 regulator/rectifier is connected to the 2 yellow and 1 blue stator lead wires exactly the same as my 2000 FE501E is. Mine has a three wire plug on the stator and a 3 wire socket on the rectifier/regulator that control orientation of the leads when connected. In order to change this OEM orientation, you would have to remove the leads from the plug or socket connector shell and then reinstall them in a different orientation.

Does your bike have these same connector shells that control the orientation?

Neither the yellow or blue stator leads are internally grounded in the stator.

Make sure the black/white lead coming from the regulator/rectifier is grounded to the bike chassis and that the negative pole of the battery is also properly grounded to the bike chassis.

If I remember correctly, the stator is connected as a 2 phase 'Y' system with the blue lead being the common lead coming from the point where the phases of the 2 yellow leads are connected together in the stator. All of the AC generated by these 2 stator windings is converted to DC in this type of regulator/rectifier.

I hope this helps,

Joe
 
JoeUSA said:
eferm2 said:
sparks said:
eferm2 said:
taffy:
i have checked the electrics in the owners manual and i can see that the 3 yellow cables sholud be connected to the 2 yellow and 1 blue from the stator but i cant see wich one that shold be connected to the blue one. alla 3 yellow cables look the same.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg

sparks:
i bought the bike like this, it worked when i tried it but then i got this problem. the former owner has replaced the regulator so im thinking maybe he has connected it wrong. i hade this problem one time before.
i replaced the stator and battery (new) and the bike ran great for 60km, now i have the same problem again and the battery is ded. i can´t reaload it.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3311.jpg
one of these yellow should be connected to the blue one and the other 2 to the yellows but i cant find out wich is wich...
Click to expand...

I'll tell you again my old mucker what you have there is a three phase regulator rectifier there and will not work with the SEM stator, not now not ever, you require two separate units a regulator for the lights and a regulator rectifer for the battery (single phase) comprende.

Regards

Sparks.
Click to expand...

i hear you but at the same time im a little confused, this is a originalpart. check this sheet out (upper left corner)
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r147 ... MG3312.jpg
and if you look in the spareparts catalog it is only one unit, just like this one. not 2.
please explain, sorry if im annoying...
/erik
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Hello Erik,

You are not annoying, your 2003 regulator/rectifier is connected to the 2 yellow and 1 blue stator lead wires exactly the same as my 2000 FE501E is. Mine has a three wire plug on the stator and a 3 wire socket on the rectifier/regulator that control orientation of the leads when connected. In order to change this OEM orientation, you would have to remove the leads from the plug or socket connector shell and then reinstall them in a different orientation.

Does your bike have these same connector shells that control the orientation?

Neither the yellow or blue stator leads are internally grounded in the stator.

Make sure the black/white lead coming from the regulator/rectifier is grounded to the bike chassis and that the negative pole of the battery is also properly grounded to the bike chassis.

If I remember correctly, the stator is connected as a 2 phase 'Y' system with the blue lead being the common lead coming from the point where the phases of the 2 yellow leads are connected together in the stator. All of the AC generated by these 2 stator windings is converted to DC in this type of regulator/rectifier.

I hope this helps,

Joe
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this is exacly my problem, the former owner of the bike has made homemade connections so i can´t be shure if they are connected correctly. when i replaced the stator i just connected the wires like it was, maybe that wasn´t so smart. i wonder if i have destroyed my new stator...

joe, if it is possible, can you check on your bike wich yellow wire from the regulator that is connected to the blue from the stator?
/erik
 
Erik,

I'll do that on Friday, (tomarrow) and include a picture.

Regards,

Joe
 
eferm said:
... i wonder if i have destroyed my new stator...
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I doubt you could have damaged the 12V windings in the stator, no matter how it was connected. They are designed to be connected into a dead short with the engine running - that is how the regulators work. I guess connecting the battery directly across the stator windings would give 'em hell but!

For my two bob, the regulator/rectifier unit looks to me like its rectifier is intended for a three phase charging system exactly as Sparks said. However, I can't see any reason why this should not work OK on the in-phase dual outputs from the SEM stator. I guess Mr Husaberg must have believed it would be OK too.

It might help to confirm that NONE of the 12V wires from the stator to the reg/rect are grounded. That would screw up the function of the rectifier.

The systems that have the blue stator wire grounded run most or all of the electic system (such as the lights) off AC. Any DC items running off a stator with a grounded wire end up with half of the stator output blocked by the rectifier, reducing the DC power available.
 
Erik, here is a picture of mine, I know its dirty but I ride desert and only wash it when I have to do serious work on it.

The yellow lead in the middle with the clip on it is the one that connects to the blue stator wire.

You said the previous owner rewired the bike. If so, make sure the connections between the stator leads and the Rectifier/regulator are capable of 11 amps. This system puts out 140 watts!

Regards,

Joe
 

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JoeUSA said:
Erik, here is a picture of mine, I know its dirty but I ride desert and only wash it when I have to do serious work on it.

The yellow lead in the middle with the clip on it is the one that connects to the blue stator wire.

You said the previous owner rewired the bike. If so, make sure the connections between the stator leads and the Rectifier/regulator are capable of 11 amps. This system puts out 140 watts!

Regards,

Joe
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thanks my friend, that was a ****** report because my blue wire is also connected to the middle yellow cable..... i hoped the regulator was connected wrong, now i have to fintd a real error....
 
when the bike is idiling the voltage is 13, it maby works for 30 seconds, the the voltage goes down to under 10 and the bike dies...
any suggestions?
/erik
 
eferm2 said:
when the bike is idiling the voltage is 13, it maby works for 30 seconds, the the voltage goes down to under 10 and the bike dies...
any suggestions?
/erik
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Erik,

You have some sort of short cicuit taking place within in the Regulator rectifier.

Regards

Sparks.
 
sparks said:
eferm2 said:
when the bike is idiling the voltage is 13, it maby works for 30 seconds, the the voltage goes down to under 10 and the bike dies...
any suggestions?
/erik
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Erik,

You have some sort of short cicuit taking place within in the Regulator rectifier.

Regards

Sparks.
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i got a brand new regulator from a friend today so i will replace it later today and see if that helps.
 
eferm2 said:
sparks said:
eferm2 said:
when the bike is idiling the voltage is 13, it maby works for 30 seconds, the the voltage goes down to under 10 and the bike dies...
any suggestions?
/erik
Click to expand...

Erik,

You have some sort of short cicuit taking place within in the Regulator rectifier.

Regards

Sparks.
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i got a brand new regulator from a friend today so i will replace it later today and see if that helps.
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Just another thought if you want to use an after market regulator rectifier say like the one from Trail Tech then what you need to do to get full AC power from the SEM is to join the two yellows together and feed it as one cable along with the Blue, this is putting both windings in pararell.

Regards

Sparks.
 

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