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Boryamba

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Hi, all.
Guys, explane, please, what is the difference between this two, i need all details.
All, what i have found in official site are 4.25" on E and 5.00" on C rear rim's wide, 16x38 and 15x40 final ratio.
On the bilds i see headlight, stoplight and sidestand on E version. I guess it has blinkers and on/off ignition switch and maybe keylock, like streetlegal version.
What else?
Aspecially actually get to know are there some difference in motors? Any ecological or noise rules on FS650E, like on streetlegal version? What with intake and exghaust sistems on this two, on 650E is exghaust directflow also?

And last one, are there some light's kits (head, stop and blinkers) on 650C on the market avayable?

Guys, i really need your help. :)

And excuse my english.
 
Guys, is my english so bad or nobody knows? :)
Can somebody says is 650E engine restricted somehow or no?
 
Engines are the same,c model has minimal wiring harness no lights,no side stand.e model has lights and stand.
 
i would think the exhaust system would be different and anything from that such a s a jet size different but power wise they should be the same.

regards

Taffy
 
The competition 'C' models have minimal electrics, no headlight, no tail light, no turn signals, no speedometer, no side stand, etc.

If you're only riding the track that's ok. If you plan to ride any street you're going to want the 'E' model that comes with the street legal friendly components.
 
Most everything from the e can be grafted on to the c easily, except the sidestand - there is no casting on the frame on the c model to accept the sidestand.

I still don't understand why they wouldn't standardize the frame to have the stand boss on both models..

Cheers

Mark
 
Re: RE: FS650C vs. FS650E

Taffy said:
i would think the exhaust system would be different and anything from that such a s a jet size different but power wise they should be the same.

regards

Taffy
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How is it possible? Restricted exghaust system, smoller jet size and same power? :shock: :)
But, if only this, it's no problem to convert this to open version.
 
Re: RE: FS650C vs. FS650E

supertireguy said:
The competition 'C' models have minimal electrics, no headlight, no tail light, no turn signals, no speedometer, no side stand, etc.

If you're only riding the track that's ok. If you plan to ride any street you're going to want the 'E' model that comes with the street legal friendly components.
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The E version has speedometer else?!!! Of course, i forget, that's street legal version.
Speedometer, side stand, full complete light, key look (i guess), switches atc. How they keep weight difference 2kg only? :shock:
 
chilledspode said:
Most everything from the e can be grafted on to the c easily, except the sidestand - there is no casting on the frame on the c model to accept the sidestand.

I still don't understand why they wouldn't standardize the frame to have the stand boss on both models..

Cheers

Mark
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Do you think install to full street light kit to C version easye, than convert E version to open one? Actually this is my main question.
Guys, your opinions, please.
 
it's like the difference between the numbers 99 and 100? 1KG of weight, 2KG of weight and you can throw this away or make a profit on ebay!

i think C comes with slick tyres and E with treaded tyres.

anyway, easy...

regards

Taffy
 
The tyres are not that thing what about need speak .

Somewhen i ordered KTM. I wanted 620SC. There is no SC on the stock then and dealer offer me something identical (how hi assure me) just with E letter :? , i don't remember model exactly now. It was spring already and i was forced order what they have. When it comes, bike was found 13 kg havyer and 10 hp weaker, than SC. It was fully street legal version with hardly restricted exghaust system, tuned by ecology rules intake system and heap of absolutely notnecessary things for me, like accu, speedometer, keylook atc. It spend me much time, many and energy to make bike what i need from it.

There is no Berg dealer in my area, a don't have possibility take a look to bikes in showroom. That's why i'm asking here. I just don't want repeat the mistakes. But you speak me "anyway, easy..." ...:rr:

Sorry for offtop.
 
KTM - I think you are refering to the 640E SM vs the 625SMC (SC) and yes they are considerably different bikes - FCR. high flow head, lighter hi-performance exhaust and for awhile aluminum subframe all came on the SC/SMC's but not the 640E SM's

The Berg situation is not equivalent - the 'e' and 'c' models are virtually identical. The smaller rear wheel (4.25 vs 5.00), final gearing, slicks, lighting, sidestand and silencer(?) are the only differences I am aware of and the lighting with controls are available as a kit from Husaberg. I own an FS650e, but I have been told the 'c' wiring harness is ready for the 'e' lighting and controls....

Cheers

Mark

nb: And by the way the Berg is nothing like my 625SMC - the SMC at ~300lbs and 55hp underwhelmed me & the Berg at ~260lbs and 70hp was what I should have bought in the first place. Like you I tried to make a tank into a light/powerful bike - it can't be done for any reasonable amount of money, so I bought a different bike and my father (at 69) rides the SMC now... :) Our first ride together in a long time...
 

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lights & signals

My first plan in Berg buying was the 2006c & then convert for about 5 bills. When I went to buy it all they had was the 2005e. At first I was disappointed but then realized that life could be easer without all the fuss over lights. Whats odd to me is that it did not have signals and had to be purchased in addition to the bike. Four months later I received signals yesterday.
 
RE: lights & signals

Mark (chilledspode) thank's a lot for the answer.
You absolutely right, it was 640E with steel subframe. I'v taken off everything what i could from it, installed complete racing exghaust, upgraded intake system and it stay still heavy and not enough powerfull for tarmac.

Tell me, please, are there instrument's panel and keylook with steering shaft's blocking on 650E? And what about sylencer, is it streetlegal (not straightflow)?
Mark, you write the lighting with controls is available as kit from Husaberg directly. Is it available for EStart version only or for kik start version also?
And where could i order this kit, US dealers offer it? I didn't seen this kit in official factory site and dealers sites also.

And by the way, 260 lbs (117kg), which you write for 650E, looks much more correct, then 112 on official site. 70 hp even for E version? :shock: Husaberg is world's number 1 for sure.

P.S. Your daddy is hot chilly at his 69. Nice weather on the photos, where is you located?
This is what i see from my window now. :(

Cheers
Boris
 

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Re: lights & signals

Roostur said:
My first plan in Berg buying was the 2006c & then convert for about 5 bills. When I went to buy it all they had was the 2005e. At first I was disappointed but then realized that life could be easer without all the fuss over lights. Whats odd to me is that it did not have signals and had to be purchased in addition to the bike. Four months later I received signals yesterday.
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Roostur, i can't understand what you buy. You write they have 2005E only, but from text i see you'v buyed something without "all fuss over lights" (C version?). Specify please.
 
Here is my current conditions - the photo of my dad and I was from this spring...:)
Location Yellowknife, NWT Canada
Wednesday, High -22°C, Light snow, Wednesday night, Low -27°C, POP 60% , hance of flurries

I am not entirely up to speed on this but I think this is accurate - I believe the standard 'e' from the factory comes with only a healight and tail light and a digital speedo unit - the dealer then installs the street legal kit turnsignals, horn, mirrors, switches, etc.

My street legal e came with a keyed steering lock but no keyed iginition.

I believe the street legal kit is about $1,000 Cdn....

I never finished my research on converting a 'c' to an 'e' once I determined how similar they were. My advice is to find a fully dealer prep'd street legal 'e' model and avoid the headaches if you can.

Cheers

Mark
 
FSc - FSe

2006 FS650e vs. FS650c

FS-c:

- no keylock on steering stem
- no side stand
- no chainguard
- rear rim 5"x17
- no cush drive
- secondary transmission 15:40
- no tachometer and other electrical gadgets
- front tire: 12/60-17 SMF15A Michelin
- rear tire: 16/63-17 SMR14A Michelin
- front brake pads SBS RS (FS-e SBS HS)
- open silencer (like FC)

- idle jet: 45 (KTM No: 545.31.607.045)
- main jet: 160 (same as FSe)
- needle: OBEKR (KTM No: 573.31.034.300), 4th ftom top, FSe OBDVT, 2nd from top (but customer get Ready-to-race kit with OBEKR and 45 idle, at least in Europe)

Cheers, Goran
 
chilledspode said:
Wednesday, High -22°C, Light snow, Wednesday night, Low -27°C, POP 60% , hance of flurries
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Oh. I envyed for nothing. There are +2 and little raining hear.
I never finished my research on converting a 'c' to an 'e' once I determined how similar they were. My advice is to find a fully dealer prep'd street legal 'e' model and avoid the headaches if you can.
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From another side i'll need to buy open silencer and 5.00" rear wheeel for "E". Sidestand is Ok, but steering lock is extra weight only, no more.
Any way i have all info now and can make decision.

Thank you for help, Mark.
Cheers. Boris.
 
Re: FSc - FSe

Goran said:
2006 FS650e vs. FS650c

FS-c:

- no keylock on steering stem
- no side stand
- no chainguard
- rear rim 5"x17
- no cush drive
- secondary transmission 15:40
- no tachometer and other electrical gadgets
- front tire: 12/60-17 SMF15A Michelin
- rear tire: 16/63-17 SMR14A Michelin
- front brake pads SBS RS (FS-e SBS HS)
- open silencer (like FC)

- idle jet: 45 (KTM No: 545.31.607.045)
- main jet: 160 (same as FSe)
- needle: OBEKR (KTM No: 573.31.034.300), 4th ftom top, FSe OBDVT, 2nd from top (but customer get Ready-to-race kit with OBEKR and 45 idle, at least in Europe)

Cheers, Goran
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Nice work there Goran - I forgot the cush drive... :)

Cheers

Mark
 

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