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Re: Recovery System..........
I decided to go with the Evans coolant. It does not boil over, so no coolant recovery tank is needed. Fit a fan kit too, the bike runs cool and the fan rarely comes on.
Interesting trailside testing tidbit. Doing the highly accurate and technical "camelback water squirt test" the cylinder and head do not boil the water off with too much enthusiasm, so they appear to be under 200 degrees. The pipe of course is nuclear hot. The interesting thing is the cases at the base of the cylinder are hotter than the cylinder and head. The squirted water boils faster off them.
This tells me the oil temps are probably pretty warm. Nothing but synthetic for this bike...
I decided to go with the Evans coolant. It does not boil over, so no coolant recovery tank is needed. Fit a fan kit too, the bike runs cool and the fan rarely comes on.
Interesting trailside testing tidbit. Doing the highly accurate and technical "camelback water squirt test" the cylinder and head do not boil the water off with too much enthusiasm, so they appear to be under 200 degrees. The pipe of course is nuclear hot. The interesting thing is the cases at the base of the cylinder are hotter than the cylinder and head. The squirted water boils faster off them.
This tells me the oil temps are probably pretty warm. Nothing but synthetic for this bike...
Re: Recovery System..........
It is always a good idea to run a coolant recovery system. It is more efficient since the cooling system is always at full capacity, plus all you have to do to check the coolant level is to look at the recovery tank.
It is always a good idea to run a coolant recovery system. It is more efficient since the cooling system is always at full capacity, plus all you have to do to check the coolant level is to look at the recovery tank.
Re: Recovery System..........
My FE570 hasn't used a drop of coolant since I've had it. When cold the level is just above the radiator core (no meltdown here!!); I assume that when it's hot the coolant is at the top of the radiator - so it's always full.
If you're concerned about boiling, fit a fan.
A recovery system would add $5 to the production costs of this bike. I'm sure that if it needed one, the factory would have fitted one (or at least offered a kit).
Greg
My FE570 hasn't used a drop of coolant since I've had it. When cold the level is just above the radiator core (no meltdown here!!); I assume that when it's hot the coolant is at the top of the radiator - so it's always full.
If you're concerned about boiling, fit a fan.
A recovery system would add $5 to the production costs of this bike. I'm sure that if it needed one, the factory would have fitted one (or at least offered a kit).
Greg
Heck, I boiled dry in one 1000 foot ascent...in the snow..without a trail... I have no pictures, but I have GPS of it... In that little bit, took 30 minutes to go 2.1 miles and ascend 1600 feet. R I diculous. No coolant left whatsoever when I was done... And it was only 40 degress Fahrenheit outside... It's the orange stretch of trail. Well...wasn't really a trail.
I've since fitted a fan.
I've since fitted a fan.
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I have a 570S and I am surprised they got away with a street legal motorcycle that does not have a recovery tank??? The DOT regulations main concern for highway use is that no overflow can spew onto the highway, that includes fuel and coolant. Any leagal dualsport with a carb for example (as well as my FI Berg) has that charcoal can that we all eliminate but it's there so it can't puke on the pavement. I would like one just because my bike does overflow when it's warm and I am always adding coolant.
I've added a coolant recovery kit( CRT) from KTMHutt.com The toughest part was finding room to mount the tank. I ended up putting it in the rear fender well. I caulked it in place and ty-wrapped it. The kit came with about 5 feet of blue hose and a few ty-wraps. Cost: $42 includes shipping. I'm sure that this would be fine for SM, I'm riding off road this coming weekend, I'll let you know how it held up. As far as the mounting spot, this is the same place as the battery mounts on my DRZ 400 (should be no problem) I've tried to post pic's, but I guess that I'm just not that smart?
I just fitted a coolant recovery bottle to my FX450. I have not tested it yet but i dont forsee any problems.
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Squ1rrel, that is exactly where I mounted mine, it's been only one off road ride but nothing has hit it or snagged it. I covered my coolant lines with a ribbed plastic tubing from an old machine that they were scrapping at work; the covering is just larger that the OD of the coolant lines(kinda looks like the tubing on the fuel pump) Good job!Squ1rrel said:I just fitted a coolant recovery bottle to my FX450. I have not tested it yet but i dont forsee any problems.
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Would you guys check back in with how your recovery system is holding up for off road travel? The last two times my '09 FE 450 has been on steep, somewhat technical trails, I've been steaming coolant in relatively short order and would like to try a system like yours. Thanks in advance!
I have ridden a few times now with this coolant recovery system, in the hot summer desert heat, with no problems.
I agree you should avoid over-heating in the first place, but sometimes it can happen, and I take comfort from the peace of mind that I will not lose all my coolant when she boils over. This is a relatively low cost option which is very effective.
I agree you should avoid over-heating in the first place, but sometimes it can happen, and I take comfort from the peace of mind that I will not lose all my coolant when she boils over. This is a relatively low cost option which is very effective.
Squ1rrel said:I just fitted a coolant recovery bottle to my FX450. I have not tested it yet but i dont forsee any problems.
Can be purchased from http://www.shutupandride.co.za
Anybody know what this tank actually is, pretty sure it isn't custom made just for this?
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I live in Arizona and use my 09 570 to ride in the sand dunes in CA. I ride at an A - AA level. I have ridden all over the US in all types of conditions and I have to say I doubt there is anything that works a motor harder and builds more heat than riding sand dunes flat out. I put a fan on the bike plus added a recovery tank behind the number plate hoping to defeat the problem but so far no luck. When I put coolant in the bike I just barely cover the core however after a hard ride in the dunes my fan is running and the recovery bottle is almost full. The additional problem I have is that the recovery bottle is working great in terms of catching the coolant coming out from a boil over but the coolant never sucks back in once the bike is cooled down. If I open the cap the coolant rushes back in but that is the only way to get the coolant back in. Does anyone have any answers for me? How could I get the beast to run cooler? Why is my coolant not being sucked back in? Any other help?
This is absolutely the fastest and best motorcyle in the sand dunes as nothing can come close to hanging with me but the hot running bike is a little concerning.
This is absolutely the fastest and best motorcyle in the sand dunes as nothing can come close to hanging with me but the hot running bike is a little concerning.
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