Hi i know all about technique thats why i`ve got six kids lol.....i`ve got a 610 husky i can start in about three kicks the prob with the husa is the kickstart jams and when you bump it it seems to have an immense amount of compression thats why i posted the question thought it might be a common problem that would be easy to fix...i now know it is obviously something mechanically wrong with the kickstart mechanism thanks for all the replies BE LUCKY