Oil filter interchangeability?

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Can someone confirm that all the Husabergs from 2006 to 2009 use the same filter? Secondly, I believe that it is the same filter as the KTM 250SX. Is that true also? My buddies and I are going to order a large quantity, and I didn't want to get the wrong filter.
 
When you say "KTM long", does that mean that it is the same as one of the filters on the RFS motor?
 
Correct, the RFS has a long and a short. Retailers here refer to them as KTM 'long'

Steve
 
Sorry guys, this is a very interesting post as sometimes it's not so easy to get spare parts for Husa models..
does anybody know whay is the equivalent in KTM for HSB 600 98 ?

I'd really appreciate this info.
 
the 2006 to 2008 "old" motors all take the same KTM RFS long filter

the new 2009 models use a diffrent filter it is a different part number

DO NOT USE the old one in the 2009 model its not designed to deal with the different oil pressures.
 
The 09 is a different part#
I have not compared them with the 01-08, but Gazza is correct they are different #
 
I read somewhere that the 09 uses the same filter as the 250 SX. When I go to K&N website and look up the RFS long and the 250 SX, they show a different part number, but they are dimensionally the same. Puzzling...
 
mconnell said:
I read somewhere that the 09 uses the same filter as the 250 SX. When I go to K&N website and look up the RFS long and the 250 SX, they show a different part number, but they are dimensionally the same. Puzzling...

yeah that sounds right it may be the 250f one, both are the same size but different construction to the RFS one.
 
The KTM 'long' also goes into LC4s. Ballards here in Oz do them in lots of 10 for $75oz

Steve
 
DO NOT USE the old one in the 2009 model its not designed to deal with the different oil pressures.

so are we to assume that the 08 filter is a tighter, more restrictive filter then?
 
fryguy said:
DO NOT USE the old one in the 2009 model its not designed to deal with the different oil pressures.

so are we to assume that the 08 filter is a tighter, more restrictive filter then?

They measure and look the same ,770 and 580 filters...there might be one more pleat in the 580 filter..they look interchangeable.
 
If the above information is accurate about the '09 KTM 250SXF filter being the correct filter for '09 Husaberg FE450/570s, then the issue has to be restriction/flow rate through the filter material. Outward dimensions are the same between a HIFLOFILTRO HF155 (old RFS long) and HF655 (newest 250SX-F), however the filter material is definitely different, appearing denser on the HF655. Setting up a very informal flow test by filling the filters from the inside with engine oil, letting the paper soak, and then measuring flow through showed the HF155 (old) passing about 50% more oil. I'm not saying KTM is right to reject stainless filters, just that my results are consistent with their belief that a certain amount of restriction is desirable to prevent cavation at the oil pump. Smells a little like baloney to me, but I don't make the big bucks.
 
motorcare said:
If the above information is accurate about the '09 KTM 250SXF filter being the correct filter for '09 Husaberg FE450/570s, then the issue has to be restriction/flow rate through the filter material. Outward dimensions are the same between a HIFLOFILTRO HF155 (old RFS long) and HF655 (newest 250SX-F), however the filter material is definitely different, appearing denser on the HF655. Setting up a very informal flow test by filling the filters from the inside with engine oil, letting the paper soak, and then measuring flow through showed the HF155 (old) passing about 50% more oil. I'm not saying KTM is right to reject stainless filters, just that my results are consistent with their belief that a certain amount of restriction is desirable to prevent cavation at the oil pump. Smells a little like baloney to me, but I don't make the big bucks.

Have KTM openly rejected the stainless filters then? Just interested.
I thought the idea of a filter was to filter the oil, not slow down or speed up the rate of flow.
It makes sense that the HF655 would be denser/slightly more intensive filtering than the old RFS which had two filters and two screens.
Why play a guessing game, just buy the correct oil filter for the 09 husaberg in the first place.
Yes, most of the ktm stuff will be exactly the same, even though berg stuff has different part nos and comes bubble wrapped with husaberg stamped on it.
Thats so ktm can work out the sales figures for the berg range i guess.

What pi**es me off is , that any dealer worth his salt should be able to tell you instantly whether a part is the same as/or compatible in the range he sells.

Oh, nearly forgot what i came on for. Yes , thats correct about the filter being exactly the same as the newer twin cam models like 250sx-f for the 09 bergs.
So dont use the RFS ones even though they fit as they have different filtration material.
 
DaleEO said:
If you are going to run a Scott's stainless mesh oil filter, it is the same filter from 1997 to 2009. http://www.scottsperformance.com/produc ... e=Husaberg

I can't figure out why anyone would want to run anything other than a Scott's oil filter. (Not one of the off brands, they are inferior)

Well I got the PC Racing Filter sold to me by the Husaberg Dealer. They have been using them for several years. I am going to get a Scotts, put the Scotts in my FS650 and leave the PC filter in my FE and see what happens. Then I will be able to do a running comparison.
PC Filter has exactly the same specs as a Scotts but half the price. But if you average the cost over 20 oil changes thats only $3.5 per change for the Scotts and $1.5 per change for the PC Racing, both of which are way cheaper than a paper filter plus it's not polluting the landfills. When the Scotts gets here if it is obviously twice the quality of the PC Racing then I will order another and toss the cheaper filter. Like I said over a year changing your filter the difference in price is negligible.
I also like the idea of washing the stainless filters into a catch basin and having a peek at what is coming out of them.
 
I recommend stainless steel oil filters.you can find them on ebay under $25. They are reusable just clean them thoroughly even only with a help of brush and soapy water. You can use it forever. No need to mess with paper filters.
 
surely the paper filters filter more fine particals out??? Why can't you was in kerosene the paper ones and re-use them at least a number of times?
 

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