Irregular "tink, tink" sound from motor, lots of s

Taffy · Sep 16, 2009

grisezd

you probably have the earlier gear teeth on your c/b, crank gear, intermediate gear and clutch hub. to check, you need the intermediate shaft naked and you either have a stepped shaft or a straight one. so if you have early (all '01s) set of gears you can't afford to upgrade that lot at around $1,000.

i'm the only one selling balancer bearings. i can also supply just the big end bearing and pin if that's all you need.

the w/p clip is what a previous owner lost. they wouldn't have found it so they would have replaces it and got on with it.

now i need to point out that the mains have BALLS, the c/b has balls and you found needles........

you must check for ovality in the linar before attempting to reline it.

you don't want a big bore kit you want it back to standard as that's all they'll take.

you do realise this is going to be bloody expensive?

write to me if you want some prices.

regards

Taffy

grisezd · Sep 16, 2009

Oh, it's going to be expensive. I was hoping someone would respond with "my spare motor is for sale for (insert something less than the repair cost here)". You might say I'm a dreamer...

After reading up on the JBS big bore kit I realized that big bore is probably not a good option for me. Now, they do have a 2mm overbore piston. If that can save me the cost of a liner that might be a good option? Does Wiseco or anyone else make an overbore piston for the 650?

Taffy, I think you have me confused with another fellow. I didn't find needles, I found shavings. It's definitely the cb bearing.

I'll be needing your counterbalancer bearings. My mechanic lead me to believe that the connecting rod isn't a reuseable part. If I can simply replace the big end bearing and move on then I'll need one of those too.

Thanks, all.

husabutt · Sep 16, 2009

Taffy said:
grisezd

you probably have the earlier gear teeth on your c/b, crank gear, intermediate gear and clutch hub. to check, you need the intermediate shaft naked and you either have a stepped shaft or a straight one. so if you have early (all '01s) set of gears you can't afford to upgrade that lot at around $1,000.

Taffy

Taffy,

You can in fact get a double bearing counter balancer to fit an 01 without changing all those gears.

The updated part number (double bearing) for the 01 650 is 210 257-01

The old single bearing part number is 210 197-01

He can probably use your C/B bearings and use 210 245-01 circlip and 210 246-01 shim to make it all fit together nicely.

Its all in the 2002 parts manual.

Taffy · Sep 16, 2009

eric

i'm not confused. you offered him the upgraded part when all he needs are the bearings as you say. a circlip doesn't go with the double row, what you get is a clip to locate between the pair of bearings as opposed to one on the outside to hold the single one in.

however you are right when you say that if (for some unearthly reason) he decided to upgrade the whole single to a double deal then yes there is one.

but then just to confuse it all to finish: i think that they may have stopped making all the '01 stuff now. will check sometime soon and come back to you.

grisezd

yes mate i was on auto over another thread....

regards

Taffy

husabutt · Sep 16, 2009

Not trying to give you a hard time Taff ole boy but I think he would need #6 and #7 for the double row if he were to use your bearings as they are different shims and circlips than the single bearing balancer?

Taffy · Sep 16, 2009

kind of again eric

firstly i said circlip on the outside and as you can see there is no circlip on the outside. there is one splitting the bearings as you highlight and i also pointed out. i failed to mention the 0.2mm shim quite right but i would never let that stop me as they are a ball bottom end and they will halt the cranks axial movement. i've never fitted a shim.

BTW, that's the 2002 parts book you got out there.

with my bearings i have absolutely no chamfer on the bearing edges so that central clip needs to come out completely otherwise the bearings are too wide. they are free to wander in and out of the CB.

being a child of the 60's i believe in freedom to travel....

regards

Taffy

husabutt · Sep 16, 2009

Taffy said:
BTW, that's the 2002 parts book you got out there.
Taffy

I know. Its weird that to find the updated 01 part you must look in the 02 manual. Chalk it up to a Husaberg thing I suppose.

Do you think that your double bearings would fit straight into the 01 single bearing counterbalancer?

Taffy · Sep 17, 2009

i don't think....it does!

regards

Taffy

Coastie · Sep 17, 2009

Hey Taffy
If you take out that centre circlip what stops the c/b from movin around?

Taffy · Sep 17, 2009

nothing

Coastie · Sep 18, 2009

Well that can't be good ................can it?

grisezd · Sep 18, 2009

Coastie said:
Well that can't be good ................can it?

See, I've already ordered Taffy's bearings. You're supposed to say something encouraging like "Oh, obviously that's been well thought through and it can't possibly be a problem". 8)

Taffy · Sep 18, 2009

40 sets sold and no problems at all so far.

guess i thought it through....

regards

Taffy

Coastie · Sep 18, 2009

See, I've already ordered Taffy's bearings. You're supposed to say something encouraging like "Oh, obviously that's been well thought through and it can't possibly be a problem".

:lol: - not saying it will be a problem.
Just wondering what keeps the c/b from moving.
That clip was put in there to stop the axial movement.
I reckon Mr Husaberg put it in there for a reason too - not just cos he had too many circlips and was trying to get rid of em.
The c/b can only really move 1 way - toward the crank. It gets stopped the other way by the drive gear.
Been a while since I've had 1 apart and can't remember how much movement is possible in the other direction.
If it was possible that it could move towards the crank enough to dis-engage the drive gears then , well, you do the sums.

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