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Calgary, Alberta Canada
***UPDATED*** see new post below

Two huge thumbs down for International Motorsports in Vancouver B.C. Canada area! :cuss:
I saw an ad they ran in a local paper listing 2009 FE 570 factory demo's (including the tag line "We ship everywhere"). I enquired with my address and phone #, we traded emails a few times with all the particulars and then the sales rep 'James' sent me an invoice. I bought it! I paid for the bike, overnight shipping to Calgary Canada (1000km away), new fender sticker and a skid plate and of course tax. None of these charges were optional. They were to ship the bike the day after payment confirmation; I would then have it the following day.
I paid the invoice without delay by direct bank deposit into International Motorsports bank account. Waited a day, called to get shipping info. The salesman wasn't sure what was happening so he was going to find out and then call me back. The next day I called again, same story! I emailed. The following day I'm getting pissed off since there were no answers. Much later that day I got a call back. James says, "Ummmm well... you see... there's a problem"! It seems that they can't sell a new Husaberg into another dealers territory therefore I would have to find someone to sign for the bike in Vancouver or fly there myself to sign the delivery slip saying I took delivery of the bike in Vancouver. I thought about the problem, realized that I didn't know anyone well enough in Vancouver to ask them to do that for me and was wondering what the legal ramifications would be by taking delivery in Vancouver??? Were they absolved of responsibility if I signed for it before shipping?
Next day I called James back and told him to ship the damn bike. It had been 4 days since I paid for it and overnight shipping. James was going to check with his boss and get back to me in a few minutes. Several hours later I still hadn't heard anything so I called James' boss. He insisted that I sign for it before they would ship it. I asked him when a good time to tell me that was? (Before or after he's had my money for 5 days)??? A couple hours later James called me back and told me they would ship the bike if I agreed to sign a letter stating that I took delivery in Vancouver. He said they would enclose the letter in the crate and I was to mail it back to them when I received the bike.
Next day I called to get the tracking info. James told me that they had missed the cut-off for the shipping company and it wouldn't be shipped until the following day. He also let me know that the sticker I was invoiced (and paid) for was not in on time and they would have to mail it to me!
Another day down. I'm quickly realizing how absolutely pathetic International Motorsports is. I cancel the weekend trip I had planned with my riding buddies since I'd need time to mount my trelliborgs and I wouldn't get the bike until Sat at the earliest.
On Friday afternoon I again called to get the tracking information on the shipment. James told me that he had received the fender decal and mounted it before it was crated and shipped. Later on Friday eve he emailed me Bill of Lading # and a website for the trucking company.
As I suspected, the tracking number didn't work. I called the shipping company but no answer. I called them again on Saturday after attempting to track the shipment again with no luck. Still no answer.
I called James again, he assured me that my bike had been crated and shipped as promised.
It was clear to me that the shipping company was not open on the weekend and I'd have to wait until Monday.
Monday came, I called the shipping company. They hadn't received it yet but later in the day it was expected.
Late Monday I went to the shipping company to pick up the bike.
When I got there I was a bit surprised to see a bike wrapped in black shrink wrap on a bent and twisted metal crate! I cut the shrink wrap plastic off to see poly rope tying the tripple clamps to the metal skid. That's all they used to hold my $9000 motorcycle down on a road trip through the Rocky Mountains!
The shrink wrap was rubbed through on the fender and the sticker they installed was not straight and severely bubbled!
Taped to the shrink wrap was a soaking wet envelope with the contract, the delivery letter and the French 2010 owner’s manual.
They included a French 2010 owner’s manual (really useful to an English only speaking owner of a 2009 bike right)?
They had time to install 7 tacky "International Motorsports" stickers all over my new bike.
I waited a week to cool off and then I emailed them explaining my great disappointment with the way I was treated. I thought a refund of my overnight shipping fees and the sticker were the least they could do for me. I got a call from someone there the following day telling me that they were going to have a meeting to discuss my email. He said he wanted to find out what happened and I would be getting a call later that day to discuss my email or the next day at the latest. It's been over a week now and no call; no email no contact of any kind. Still no owner’s manual, no tool kit etc.
I hope this will stop any others from going through this ******** from these jackasses. I'm hoping Husaberg/KTM Canada will show some interest in the business practises of International Motorsports
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

jeeez.. My blood pressure went up after reading that. :angry: Thats rediculous. Hopefully riding the bike a bit will help you forget the trouble of actually getting it.
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

sounds like it was their first sale - ever! either that or the salesman is a prat and didn't know his job? after that it was all downhill....

good luck sorting it though...

regards

Taffy
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

Just another case that underlines the fact that the lowest price is very rarely the best deal.
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

Bruce B sorry you had to go through all that to get your hands on what will hopefully turn out to be an amazing bike!!! This is the type of business that doesn't do any justice for real dealers and the brand. If Dealer's are willing to advertise the way you've put it well then they should be able to pull it off,but as in your case it seems like its just a catch to make a sell. Good Luck and keep us informed.
 
International Motorsports BC Canada

I would like to inform others that I just purchased a New 2008 FE450 Husaberg from international and found there to be a positive end in my purchase , however I went to the shop personally and made the deal with Zachary after trading off my 2005 WR250f and some cash ,and left with the new ride.
The first ride stock on Vedder Mnt. With the NEW HUSABERG FE450 was like riding my WR250F on steroids.

LOVE THE BIKE CHILLIWACK B.C.
THANKS ZACH
:cheers: PS . MY BIKE HAS A KICKER :D
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

Hmmm.... I bought a 09 Demo FE570 from International Motorsports about a month ago, and they were great guys to deal with. Sure they didn't call me back right away but at the same time I understand that businesses get really busy and sometimes stuff falls through the cracks.

I can understand why it took a couple days though for the out of province sale. They are just trying to cover their butt, I'm sure Husaberg/KTM wouldn't be to happy with another dealer was cutting into someone elses sales territory. I think part of the problem is that International brings tons of bikes up from the US and these are the bikes that they will sell and ship anywhere.

Once again I'm sorry to hear about your problems but at the same time there's always two sides to every story and I'd hate to have International's name dragged threw the mud when they're not on the forum boards to defend themselves. When they were really good guys to deal with for me, and went over and above the call of duty on my sale.

I'm sure once you start to ride that sweet new ride of yours you'll forget all about this.

Cheers
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

In my experience... the measure of a ______________ (insert: company, man, organization, politician, etc) is not judged on the ability to smile when it all goes right BUT... The ablity to cope and get it right after it's gone all wrong. Or better yet, stop it when it's headed off the rails.
Getting it right usulally looks like this:
Admit you got it wrong, quickly get busy making it right, ask what it will take to get it right, and if it's reasonalble... make it so. Then change the way you're doing it so you don't lose the lesson!
I own two companies. My employees know this, are empowered to fix what's broken and make the delivery in-line with the clients expectations. I usually find that a client with a problem that get a quick and complete response and fix to the problem make better long term, loyal clients.
There is something very Canadian about under-promising and over-delivering. Here's the ad for anyone that thinks International Motorsports is getting a bum wrap here:
2009 HUSABERG FE 570 , HUSABERG DEMO's~~ With Factory Warranty~~ ~~ CHECK OUT OUR NEW WEBSITE~~ You can now SHOP ONLINE for all your OEM and AFTERMARKET parts needs~~ ~~~"WE SHIP EVERYWHERE"~~~~~~ Check Our Website For more Great Deals!!~~~ www.international-motorsports.com ~~~~~"EASY FINANCING OAC" ~~~Over 300 Unit's in Stock~~~~~ "Your Motorsports Headquarters!" Your #1 source for used motorcycles, dirt bikes, ATVs, boats & watercraft. ~~WE SHIP EVERYWHERE~~ www.international-motorsports.com 101- 7225 Brown St, Delta, BC.
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

I am not making excuses but I do know from experience that KTM/HSB is really going nuts trying to stop dealers from shipping bikes to customers. Even those are demos, they are still considered new bikes in KTMs eyes, and are not supposed to be shipped to customers. This is probably where the confusion from IMs sales guy came from. He sold it and then probably got sh-t from his boss for selling it to someone who wanted it shipped to them and then didnt know how to handle it.
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

As a distributor you know the rules about selling bikes out of your territory. Which is stealing from another dealer, this WRONG and should not be done.
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

I would think that the part in their ad that says ~~~"WE SHIP EVERYWHERE"~~~~~~ is the problem. They have always said this on their internet ads long before they were a Husaberg dealer. They should take that statement out of any Husaberg listings of bikes for sale and that would clear things up a little better. I'm sure in the end even with your troubles you still saved money over walking into your local Husaberg dealer and laying down $10,500 plus the tax of your hard earned money.

Like I said before Bruce, sorry to hear about your problems but the minute you start to ride that bike that will be the last thing on your mind!

Cheers
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

***UPDATE*** :cheers:
Just got off the phone with Zack from International Motorsports. He told me that while they ship tons of bikes everywhere, they don't ship Husaberg's. The ad should have said as much. The salesman "James", should have known better etc etc etc. I didn't think there was going to be any problem since I knew I was buying a Demo and not a new bike. According to KTM/Husaberg, factory referbished demo bike are considered new. In my earliest conversations with James, he made it sound like it was no problem when I asked him about shipping. He quickly answered "No, problem we'll ship it overnight".
So... the ad was misleading. the sales rep was misleading (intentionally or more likely unknowingly), the overall communication was non-existant and frustrating to me AFTER I paid.
BUT...
They must have been scambling to see how they can keep me AND KTM/Husaberg happy. I understand the problem now but it would have been great to know this before hand. I wouldn't have dropped the $11000 for a brand new one since there are a few lightly used '09 bikes for sale near me for sub $7500. I don't think any dealer should worry that they were stealing biz from them since it really wasn't in the cards for them.
Zack has listened to my concerns, I believe he's heard me and understand what it looked like for me. He's offered me some swag for my new Berg and me. I'm feeling just fine now. Keep ya posted as the gear arrives.
I know all this sting will be long gone just as soon as I run this baby through the gears for the 1st time. I'm happy that they're stepping up and gonna make it right. Perhaps we've all learned a little and have a better list of questions to avoid such issues next time


Thanx for all your input

Bruce
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

Very cool of you to update the resolution, Bruce and it's good to see that the dealer is taking measures to make you happy. Here's hoping you enjoy the bike for a very long time.

thanks,
json
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

That's great to hear the Zach stepped up to the plate for you Bruce, I delt with James on my bike and I have the feeling he just didn't know that they couldn't ship the bikes out of province. James is a good guy, maybe just a little uninformed.

That's great to hear that they are going to hook you up with some swag, they did something similar for me. And that's why I was saying that they were great guys to deal with.

Now go ride that sexy bike and post some feed back on it!! :cheers:

Cheers
 
Re: Don't buy from International Motorsports BC Canada

Oh and maybe edit the title of your thread now.
 
hey don't it suck when you've paid up, bikes a week late and nobody seems to care, similar thing happened to me

bought one of the last of the big bikes from a tops dealer guy over east but it was PDed by the locals to save time, "should be done tomorrow mate" i'll call you and let you know, he never called me I rang every day then it somehow turned into a week. if its a hassle just send it in the box I'll Pd it myself i said.. "na mate can't let you do that the jetting has to actually be installed inside the carburettor. very complicated the wheel battery ......." bla blah blah

in the meantime I enjoyed the pics on this site
 
so, just as i said... and please edit the title of the thread (as above said).

you're entitled to your opinion of your bike but persuading people openly away from using that dealer is, in my view, wrong.

regards

Taffy
 
Taffy, I did edit the title but it's only changing on the posts since editing.
I must however STRONGLY disagree with you. I think warning someone when you're getting the shaft could save someone else from the same fate. EBay’s feedback system is based on this theory. It works both ways too; many replies here were very supportive AND I've updated all of this based on the resolution proposed and delivered (tomorrow). Good news also encourages people to buy from a company as well or more so than negative comments. I’m back to being a fan of International Motorsports. I realize stuff happens and I believe that the dealer and I have learned a few things about expectations (setting and meeting), the politics of territory, and communication.
We live in a world of social networks, and instant information. Companies that excel at customer service reap the benefit of that; companies that have terrible customer service suffer the quick consequences.
Other than that, I was just happy to vent when I got what everyone would consider a bit of a raw deal. So I don’t sound like a cry-baby; I sent the dealer 4 messages outlining the problems over a 2 week period without response. I waited 8 days after I had a phone conversation with the dealer promising a resolution to my issues by the end of the 1st day. I’d pretty much given up my thought of hearing from them. I’m getting my swag tomorrow, I’ll keep you all posted.
 
http://www.buysell.com/root/detail/BC/D ... MOTOR.aspx

''PRO CIRCUIT MOTOR/SUSPENSION/EXHAUST, TONS OF EXTRA'S ''
not to sure about the motor due to the fact that seeing the bike today clearly shows that the Pro CIrcuit suspension is not what they say because of the stock coloured spring and resevoir and has not sticker showing that it has been done. exhaust is plain to see that is it, the extras such as rims and hubs are stock.
ryan.jpg

on this picture you can see the shock spring and rim hub asembley is different from the bike that International Motorsports is selling. which makes us local people very sceptical of purchasing anything other then new bikes or in my case only parts from these people. Bruce i would if i was in your shoes told Jason i will be coming to his place of employment armed wishing to speak with you about my purchase. considering that they are advertising a bike that lists parts and accesories that arent actually on the bike.......Paul
 

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