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Quiddelbach

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I'm literally fed up of this, 1 year ago I had yet another mid life crisis and decided to try something different so I bought a new FE450 (2012), in the last year I have to concede I've hardly used the machine but I'm trying to rectify this now. Riding hours currently stand at 11 :oops:

Trouble is the machine cuts out all the time when it's warm, I've just received it back after a service, oil change etc with a local bike engineer who builds TT engines so he should know what he's doing (original Hussy dealer is too far way) .

He claims after thoroughly going over the bike it still needs running in and that's why it stalls, get out there and give it a good caining was his advice and that his enduro KTM riding friend. :?

So I have zero mechanical knowledge and I'm hating riding this bike because it's so bloody difficult and dangerous for a novice like me if it's going to stall every time I go down hill etc.

Any advice would be welcome.....maybe I should bite the bullet and stump up the cash to send it back to a authorised Hussy dealer.
 
As a novice i would recommend you buy a rekluse auto clutch, This will reduce your engine braking and prevent stalls. Or keep your fingers on the clutch and take the time to learn the bike's power curve. I recently switched from a 450 to a 350 and the 350 will cut out much quicker when being bogged down, which will require more feathering of your clutch to keep in a higher rpm range. I would practice on non intimidating terrain with a couple of short hill climbs. when the motor starts bogging, press slightly on the clutch, practice often!
 
Quiddelbach
Before you get to dis-hartened there are a few things you can do, as has been said the Rekluse is one way i have one and there great once you get used to them but i would get used to the bike before fitting one,
Another thing to look at is your gearing, I have seen bikes come out the dealers with wrong gearing, on one of the Husaberg ride outs a guy had a day old bike with road gearing he had loads of trouble.
Check the gearing i would recommend 13/52 or 14/50 check these first its a cheaper way out then the Rekluse.
If you ever fancy a ride out in Wales a few of us do the Gap every September come along if you have not got it sorted and we can have a look at her for you.
mark. :bounce3:
 
Thanks guys for the very friendly replies.

I'm not sure I made my original post clear, but the bikes stalls even on tick over in neutral (not bogged down) so I don't see how a auto clutch would prevent this happening. :?

It needs to have quite a bit of throttle applied to prevent this happening, so when riding on the Yorkshire Dales roads its a ***** to prevent stalling on a steep down hill piece of tarmac, never mind off-road, lol.

Right now the enjoyment factor is zero and not showing signs of improvement :cuss:
 
Are you using the cold start, if so you you pushing it back in after, ?.
When the bikes hot what is the tick over like, have you adjusted it ?.
 
mark2e0 said:
Are you using the cold start, if so you you pushing it back in after, ?.
When the bikes hot what is the tick over like, have you adjusted it ?.
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The bike engineer went thru the full tick over adjustment but it makes no difference it still stalls, also a friend on Saturday tried but result was the same.

Cold start ??? What is this?
 
On the throttle body found under the tank, there is a black round knob, This is your choke and tick over adjustment.
The bloke that looked at your bike how has he been adjusting your tick over, it needs to be done by this knob and not by adjusting any screws ?.
:?
 
mark2e0 said:
On the throttle body found under the tank, there is a black round knob, This is your choke and tick over adjustment.
The bloke that looked at your bike how has he been adjusting your tick over, it needs to be done by this knob and not by adjusting any screws ?.
:?
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I'm 100% certain this is the black knob my friend was adjusting to no avail on Saturday, you could hear the audible difference in engine tone during adjustment but net result engine stall. :(
 
Black knob, Out for choke, in when started and ticking over ok.
Turn knob to increase or decrease revs.
If it runs when cold but not when hot, i would fit a iridium plug, fit a new plug cap, i had a plug cap on mine go down.
Cant see it being the injector as you would have the problem all the time i would have thought.
How far are you from Dave Clarke he knows a thing or two about bergs, he did some work on my old berg a very nice bloke.
Shame your so far would love to have a look at it, i have lots of spares, injector body and engine could have changed bits until we had it sorted,
:bounce3:
 
I have recently bought '09 FE450 with over 100h on it and I having very similar problems. Going to fit iridium plug and new plug hat next to see if it helps anything.

One strange thing is that on my bike turning the tick over knob effect to rpm is zero 8O Idle rpm stays around 700-800 rpm and turning the knob doesn't change it at all. Anyone had similar problem with it?
 
try testing the plug wire. My brother's went bad due to moisture and was arching to the frame or radiator i believe. It would flame out when going through water crossings, let it dry off and would work again.
to test, spray area with water, turn off lights and turn on bike u will see the arc....

Are there any particular conditions that this is happening in...?
 
fe390vt said:
Are there any particular conditions that this is happening in...?
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I'm laughing at the above, simply because if my friends could see it they'd crease up, spray on mud off Ebay was a gift from one of them.

I've had the bike a year, ridden it 11 hrs, no off road at all, only the twisty public roads of the Yorkshire Dales to get used to it. Only now am I really trying my damndest to use the machine.

Jeese if it can't be ridden safely on public road I'm not even going to consider green lanes :wink:

It simply will not tick over in neutral when warm, without throttle it stalls very quickly.

I'll do a quick check tonight of how long it runs for on cold, to be honest I've not paid that much attention either.

Coming from road bikes this is a right royal pain in the butt. :angry:
 
mark2e0 said:
Black knob, Out for choke, in when started and ticking over ok.
Turn knob to increase or decrease revs.
If it runs when cold but not when hot, i would fit a iridium plug, fit a new plug cap, i had a plug cap on mine go down.
Cant see it being the injector as you would have the problem all the time i would have thought.
How far are you from Dave Clarke he knows a thing or two about bergs, he did some work on my old berg a very nice bloke.
Shame your so far would love to have a look at it, i have lots of spares, injector body and engine could have changed bits until we had it sorted,
:bounce3:
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We've had a play round tonight, with choke out whilst cold it ticks over perfectly until warm then stalls.

Whilst warm it makes no difference whether choke in or out or idle speed adjusted it just coughs and dies :cry:

So what next, iridium plug?
 
If it was mine i would fit an iridium plug anyway, Plus a good cap if my memory serves me right i think it has to be a resistor type cap, But i'm sure if that's wrong someone will say, Don't do what i have seen some people do and take the plug out and clean it with a wire brush your not meant to clean them for some reason or other.
Keep us informed how your getting on ?. :bounce:
 
mark2e0 said:
If it was mine i would fit an iridium plug anyway, Plus a good cap if my memory serves me right i think it has to be a resistor type cap, But i'm sure if that's wrong someone will say, Don't do what i have seen some people do and take the plug out and clean it with a wire brush your not meant to clean them for some reason or other.
Keep us informed how your getting on ?. :bounce:
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OK I'll go for it, any links to the cap I should be buying would be useful, otherwise I may just replace the existing cap with an identical one, lol.
 
Removed plug tonight, ceramic seems to have hair line crack,would this effect it?

Ordered Iridium replacement, so we'll wait for delivery and hope it resolves the problem.
 
A crack would not help it any it would ark out and cause it to mis.
Had a chat with a friend who had a 10 plate 450 he had a problems with it cutting out. He had to get his injector cleaned, that sorted his problem. If you know anyone with a sonic bath you can clean your injector in it.
 
mark2e0 said:
A crack would not help it any it would ark out and cause it to mis.
Had a chat with a friend who had a 10 plate 450 he had a problems with it cutting out. He had to get his injector cleaned, that sorted his problem. If you know anyone with a sonic bath you can clean your injector in it.
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Cheers Mark for all the guidance, I'll see what the plug change does and if no effect I'll move on to cleaning the injector next.
 
Just changed the new iridium and it had no effect. Going for the cap next.

Did someone have info on the type of the cap?
I think I'll just try to get original one from closest ktm dealer if can't find it anywhere else.

Idle rpm's still a mystery but I'll try to get it running on throttle first....
 
Asteriksi said:
Just changed the new iridium and it had no effect. Going for the cap next.

Did someone have info on the type of the cap?
I think I'll just try to get original one from closest ktm dealer if can't find it anywhere else.

Idle rpm's still a mystery but I'll try to get it running on throttle first....
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That's not what I wanted to hear :cry: .

I liken this to buying some cheap Chinese pile of crap, this is NOT what i imagined a brand like Husaberg to be like.

I can see me getting shot of mine and moving on to the next mid life crisis toy :roll:
 

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