FE550 Sway problems at speed.

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When I told your chain is rusty that can be on the inside. Your links should move freely. The way your chain was bouncing to me that look like a chain with stiff links. Thought you said you swing arm move east/west? If any play that way fix it.

Thanks again. The chain is fine on the inside... but I do need to clean it and lubricate it. The swing arm does not have play... The whole bike sways east / west when at speed in the rear. I will replace the bearings anyway.

Hi there,
just reading your thread.
Chain jerking around without load on it on a 550, seems normal to me as both mine done the same slapping on plastic guides and front sprocket sat a bit loose on spline , mine had done lots of hours work though .

Try elevating the rear wheel off the ground or up on bike stand off the ground.
Sit a screw driver or bit of wood or some object on the swing arm and touch it against the edge of the rim whilst resting on the swing arm , and have someone spin the wheel. Check if there is much deviation of the rim like a side to side buckle , twist or up and down buckle of the rim.

The rim should turn and the gap between the wood block or object resting on the swing arm sitting close to the spinning wheel should not change to much, maybe a couple of mm. If it is 10-15mm , may be the problem
Now hold the object close to the tyre and do the same, if you see lots of up and down or side to side movement of the tyre, maybe the tyre bead isn't quite on or interfering with the rim lock or the tyre may have a defect causing vibration.

Check the front tyre and front rim the same way by resting something on the fork leg holding against the rim then tyre looking for abnormal movement.

Try 30 psi in both tyres, ride, feel what its like, then let the rear one down to say 5psi on flat level road surface at the speed, see if it vibrates, if it changes , or vibration lessens, then that has isolated it maybe to the rear wheel or tyre.

30 psi in rear tyre again,try the same thing on the front tyre and feel for change, be careful low pressure in front tyre wont steer to well or stop. If the vibration lessens, then maybe you have isolated the issue to front rim or tyre.

If you still cant tell, process of elimination, change the front tyre, still no change , then swap the back tyre with another one. You can do this with any old tyre if you like.

If there's no change and its still vibrating, then its not the wheels or rims.

Not sure what else to look at for that

Hope that helps some



I will see if my rims are true or not. The rear one is defiantly not. the front one seems okay. I need a new sprocket as the front is a little too loose on the front. I ordered the parts. waiting to get some hours.

Will keep you guys posted.

Thanks again all
 
Just watched the videos, The rear for sure is not true or your axle is damaged, Rim needs to be trued or tire has a twisted belt in it to hard to tell by video. when the bike is not running check for play (move the rear wheel side to slide and check for play). The front sprocket on shaft looks like the splines are worn a little. Change it for sure and follow the good advise from others posted. You will find the answers t your issues soon as you now have a good direction to follow with all the excellent advise posted :)
 
Just watched the videos, The rear for sure is not true or your axle is damaged, Rim needs to be trued or tire has a twisted belt in it to hard to tell by video. when the bike is not running check for play (move the rear wheel side to slide and check for play). The front sprocket on shaft looks like the splines are worn a little. Change it for sure and follow the good advise from others posted. You will find the answers t your issues soon as you now have a good direction to follow with all the excellent advise posted :)



I am dropping the wheel off at a shop to get trued and balanced..

Sprocket is on order, chain is not brand new, but will last for this and maybe next season.

I am taking the swing arm off to check the bearings (ordered new ones anyway) so hopefully next week I will come back with good news :)

Thank you for all your help
 
Hello all...

just to update on what has been happening...

I took apart the whole bike... down to the frame. (minus the engine etc)

The front bearings were re greased and they seemed to be in great order. I basically greased the front end, and did what some of you told me to do with the front wheel and shocks but keeping them loose while aligning things.

I took off the swing arm, cleaned and greased that... The bearings and seals were not damaged. I greased them up, placed everything back.

The rear RIM was out of whack. It is now trued in and balanced. I have a feeling I will need a new rear tire, as I still notice a decent sway.

I have soaked the chain in diesel, washed it in diesel, then soaked it in some oil for DAYS.... Because my new parts never came in the mail, I installed everything back (but backwards with the chain and front sprocket) and GUESS WHAT? The chain is still skipping... The wheel is still swaying.

I have ordered new chain and sprocket set... 2 weeks wait. :(

I will let you know when I install those... This is getting very annoying.
 
If everything is to spec and installed correctly than I am guessing you have a twisted belt in your tire :) this for sure will cause a sway.
 
Hello all...

Though I would check in with the latest news

So... After a few weeks and a few hours in the garage.... My bike seems to be better... will know for sure after the weekend..

As to my previous post... I will just recap of everything I have done...

1) I took apart the whole front end to change the bearings in the steering stem... Never changed them as they were not even worn... Re-greased and tightened them up...

2) Took swing arm assembly off, same thing... all the bearings are fine.. Cleaned and regressed them

3) Got my rear wheel trued, repacked bearings and assembled...

4) Got new Chain, front and rear sprocket.


With all that work... Here is whats happening now....

1) The chain still jumps when the bike is on a stand. It feels like its biting on something... Cant find the reason for that....

2) I took it for a quick rip around the house and back alley.... Got it up to 70-80 km/h range and the sway problem in the rear seems to no longer be there... How ever the front still slightly shakes north south... maybe I should just replace the bearings there?


So I guess my question to you all now is....

Do I take it in and let mechanics figure out why the chain is jumping when the bike is on the stand?

or.....

Take it for a few trips to the mountains and see if it still sways?
 
i reckon your rear spokes were loose. ask the man that trued the wheel whether he didn't just true the wheel but that he also TIGHTENED the spokes.

regards

Taffy
 
Thanks Taffy,

From what the tech told me, he took the tire off, loosened all spokes, then did the whole procedure of tightening and truing...

Its still just a tiny bit out... but not as it used to be...

I guess my only concern now if why the chain is hopping? Some say its fine as its got no load on it etc... but my gut tells me there is something else
 
I don't think anything is now wrong with your chain set up. If links were tight/stiff that would be a problem but it's new. Front end can you install a damper? Maybe barrow one see if that helps. Check old chain may still be good?
 
I don't think anything is now wrong with your chain set up. If links were tight/stiff that would be a problem but it's new. Front end can you install a damper? Maybe barrow one see if that helps. Check old chain may still be good?


I think the old chain and sprocket set was still okay... The chain was a bit tight in the links and the sprockets had worn in a slight groove but I think it was normal wear and tear.


I took the bike out this weekend. And all is well now in the rear... no more swaying problems. I think it was all just the rim being out of wack...

I still have the north and south travel in the front, but I will try to sort that out with new stem bearings and maybe getting my front wheel trued and balanced. I could try to get a dampener, but they are so hard to come by to borrow... and to buy one is a little too pricey for me here.

I will keep you guys in the loop on the front problems, but for now.... THANK YOU ALL for helping me sort out the rear.

Cheers.
 
Your going get new stem bearings. Try over tightening the stem bearings a little just to see if that makes a difference. That would like a dampener. But just for one time.
 

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