engine oil?

can i run my 09 fe 450 on 10 40 semi/full synthectic because ive no idea about oil but i can by this from a pal at agood saving

Do NOT use good oil! USE VERY GOOD FULL SYNTHETIC OIL ONLY! Holding back on oil quality now will cost more later.

johny said:

can i run my 09 fe 450 on 10 40 semi/full synthectic because ive no idea about oil but i can by this from a pal at agood saving

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i've no idea about oil either and nor has anyone else, thats why oil debates rage on forever and a day.
For instance , i buy cheap brake pads thro my mechanic because i know they wear and work better than the ktm/berg ones at over twice the price. I buy stealth sprockets because they last 10 times longer than ali etc etc.
If you trust the top oil bods and what they recommend then you ought to go 10/50 fully synth for your berg.
I look at it this way, lets say you do a ride every second week, trail one time and race the next, so every 8 weeks or 400 miles you change oil, thats 8 litres a year.
If you bought the top motorex oil that equates to £70 a year.
How much did the broken parts cost you when you smashed up fender/lever etc on your first ride? Plus you spent over £6000 on that machine, see what i'm saying.

Fakesy,
You still out there? I think you were asking about the differnt types/brands of motorex oil.
This is the reply i got , straight from Motorex.

Dear Nick,

Crosspower is designed specifically for the Motocross environment
where very high temperatures are reached in short time spans and has
specific additives to deal with the 'punishment' engines get in
motocross race conditions especially with engines where the engine oil
lubricates the clutch as well.

The difference between 10/50 and 10/60 is the 10/60 will operate better at
very high engine temperatures and because of this is used by factory teams in GP's.

The Power Synt is actually a street bike oil that was developed by KTM in conjunction
with Motorex to a specification that KTM preferred for their engines and clutches hence the
recommendation by KTM for KTM and Husaberg motors.

All of these oils will work perfectly fine in the Husaberg and will give excellent performance,

Regards,

David Banks
Motorex UK

RE: Re: engine oil?

Just my 1000cc's worth, in my elderly 650 i run cheaper Castrol oil and change the oil after every full days riding (every other weekend), this costs about £4 a ride.
Motorex is over twice the price and i couldn't bring myself to change it as often.
My theory is the engine was already seven years when i got it and very regular changes with a cheaper, but quality, oil are better than less frequent changes with a supposed better quality oil.
Is the dear oil really twice as good as Castrol?

RE: Re: engine oil?

Oil debate I got this Thumper talk

Q:
WILL AUTOMOTIVE MOTOR OIL HURT MY BIKE ?
A:
It could. If you're using and automotive motor oil in your racing four-stroke , you're not buying the best protection. An API SL oil is missing vital anti-wear components:
The most important being Zinc, Phosphorus, and Sulfur. These agents are harmful to the catalyst tha is used to diminish the level of pollutants in automobile exhaust.
Q:
WILL AUTOMOTIVE OIL HURT MY CLUTCH ?
A:
YES ! The friction modifiers in motor oil improve fuel economy by making it easier for the gears , bearings, pistons and rings to slip , slide and turn inside the engine. Unfortunately, these friction-minimizing agents also make it easier for the clutch in a motorcycle to slip. If you are using automotive motor oil in your bike , apart from CRF's, you are losing hook-up and acceleration, as well as reducing the life of the clutch.
Q:
WHY SHOULD I MEMORIZE THE ACRONYM " JASO" ?
A:
As soon as it became apparent the the American Government was mandating economy over protection, the Japanese Automotive Standard Organization ( JASO ) developed a standard specifically for performance four-stroke motocycles. JASO designates two different four-stroke oil classifications:
MA and MB.
The MB il is low friction and the MA is sans the friction enhancers ( ie. Honda synthetic silver and gold )
Q:
WHY ARE MOTORCYCLE -SPECIFIC OILS BETTER ?
A:
Motorcycle specific oils are pumped up with five times the anti-wear , anti-scuff and extreme pressure additives of regular motor oil. As an added plus, motorcycle oil does not include ( except for MB rated Honda Silver ), molybdenum disulfide and other friction modifiers that wreak havoc on clutch performance.
Maxima, a popular motorcycle oil supplier, starts with a API SG Service Category base oil, the last formulation that was't regulated as to the amount of Zincdialkyldithiophosphate ( zinc, phosphorus, and sulfur ) it could contain. Maxima then boosts protection through a proprietary mix of performance additives. The end result is a motorcycle oil that doesn't break down under extreme heat and is tough enough to cushion meshing gears.
Q:
WHICH FOUR-STROKE RACING OIL SHOULD I USE ?
A:
If the bottle of oil doesn't list that it is an API SG Service Category or JASO MA spec, it's not good enough for your motocross bike. Although a bottle of oil might say "motorcycle specific" or "safe in wet clutches," the best endorsement is the API SG or JASO MA designation. It's better to be safe than sorry.
There is a caveat that applies to CRF owners, however --whic we will clear up in a few paragraphs.
Q:
WHAT VISCOSITY SHOULD I USE ?
A:
The most popular viscosity is 10W40. It's thin enough not to bog down the crank and offers ultimate protection uder an extreme lad. Every owner's manual lists the recommended oils, brands and viscosities.