Bore measurement issues

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Heya Bergers.

The short version:
I have no way to measure my liner in order to spec a replacement piston.

The long version:

Some bearing noise and steel shavings on my drain plug inspired me to finally tear down my 2008 FE550 after 210 hours. I found my main bearings were toast (as expected), with some light scoring on the piston and liner.

I'm inclined to reuse the liner as-is and replace the piston. For that, I need to size the bore. Since I don't have the right tool for that job, I went to the only engine machine shop in town and slipped them a fiver to measure it up. I was told that it was 3.932 inches.

When I got home I converted that over to metric (99.87 mm) and checked my shop manual which gives the size 1 liner spec as 100.000 to 100.012 mm. Something clearly didn't add up here, so I went back to the machine shop and asked them to double-check. They checked again, apologized for the error in the first measurement, and revised their number to 3.942 inches.

Again, I went home and checked the converted number (100.127 mm) against the specs. This time, it's way over even the size 2 liner maximum of 100.025 mm. At this point, I'm pretty sure the machine shop is not providing anything close to an accurate number.

I'm giving up on the shop measurement, and I'm wondering if anyone has any advise on how to proceed. I'm going with a ProX piston, so that leaves three options: 99.95, 99.96, or 99.97 mm. Is it reasonable to just go for the mid-sizer as a guesstimate?
 
If you are concerned about your cylinder being worn, you can send it to US Chrome and they will re-plate the cylinder and match it to the piston at whatever piston/cylinder tolerance you request. I had them do my 94 501.
 
How much did US Chrome charge you for that service?

I priced out re-plating here in Canada and it was only marginally cheaper than a new liner. ~CAD$350 re-plate (with 2x shipping) vs ~CAD$415 for a new liner.
 
Replating the liner with the likes of Nikasil, will last longer than the OEM liner. Just be VERY clear to the company doing it, that they MUST NOT grind anything off the edge of the liner, facing the head gasket!

Maybe mentioned already, but supply your piston (Prox is not the preferred choice from what I hear) to the replating company and tell them what piston clearance you want.
 
Both directions were checked, both times, and there was supposedly no detectable ovaling. I might pop the old piston in the cylinder and check with some feeler gauges to confirm.
 
US Chrome was $200 plus shipping. I also had them apply their coating to the piston skirt. They have a website.
 
US Chrome was $200 plus shipping. I also had them apply their coating to the piston skirt. They have a website.

Can you provide website? Or phone number? Or are they just called US Chrome?
 
How much did US Chrome charge you for that service?

I priced out re-plating here in Canada and it was only marginally cheaper than a new liner. ~CAD$350 re-plate (with 2x shipping) vs ~CAD$415 for a new liner.

Was that quoted by by CVTech AAB in Thetford Mines Que.?
 
Update:
I checked in again with the machine shop. They checked again (and again) and were quite confident with their new measurement of 99.873mm, which of course makes no sense at all as cylinders don't tend to shrink. I have no confidence in this shop.

I happened to be passing through Vancouver last weekend so I stopped by Mongoose Machine to get their take on it. I paid a $35 estimate fee to find out that my cylinder measures between 100.00 and 100.06mm, which seems much more plausible. Mongoose's recommendation was to go with the (largest) 99.97mm ProX piston, and they commented that the Husaberg manual's piston clearance spec was much larger than they would normally use.

Unfortunately, this doesn't clarify the problem as much as I would hope. Given the (coated) piston clearance spec of 0.042-0.087mm, my ideal piston should be 99.913-99.958mm, which points toward the smallest ProX piston.

So there we have it - I have a measurement, but I have two opposing recommendations. I'm inclined to go for the medium-size piston as a compromise, but it's disappointing to have to make a guesstimate like that after all of this measurement nonsense.

What would you do?
 
Pro X is rubbish

B size wossner ?

Best prices I could find (in CAD, shipped and taxed):
ProX $190
Wossner $300
OEM $535

Rubbish, but worth trying since it's nearly half the price of the Wossner? There's a good possibility I'll be selling this bike in the next year or so.
 
I take that back. This just popped up on my favourite site for cheap *******s:

Wossner 8602 DB USD$100 99.96mm

I bought it, so I sure hope it's the right size for my liner.
 
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