570 Handling in tight stuff its weakness?

I am trying to get all info I can before I pull the trigger on a new dual sport. I was sold on the berg until I found some complaints on how it felt tippy and sometimes difficult to handle when climbing. I know that setup is key so before I jump ship to the beta world I want to see if anyone has some experience with this issue and the 570.
I am not concerned about the power (or having too much of it) I had cr500's for years. What I don't want to do is comprimise power for handling in technical situations. I do a lot of trail riding and an willing to give up the lust for power for better handling. I just sold my dual sported wr426 and that bike was very forgiving in hairy places but lacked the power I like have in reserve.
I am not trying to put down the 570's because they seem to be awesome machines, just not sure if its the best fit for me.

Thanks

I have a 570 and rally have no clue as to the problems you are referring to. I use it as a duel sport 20% of the time and the rest is singletrack. Unless you have a 30" or less inseam you shouldnt have any of those problems.
I guess you would really need to ride one to know for sure. There has to be more Bergs available than Beta's at the moment. Not knocking the Beta, they are supposed to be pretty sweet as well. Just not sold on there distribution network presently.

That is my major concern with the betas as well.
I know when I had my 426 suspension reworked for my weight it fixed my suspension problems. Before that it wanted to wash the front end out all of the time. I am guessing that would be the case with the 570 as well.

I rode my 570 in tight technical single track all the time when I had it without much problem, the only reason I got rid of it was because I was going to do a lot more racing this year and I thought the FX450 would be better suited to my needs. IMO the only real advantage a Beta would have is their fairly low stand over height.

Well mine handles great in the singles, I can ride it faster than my wifes excf250.

I suggest you go for a ride on one first.

I've heard some pretty strange things before but the handling on the 570!
What a load of crap.
The 570 Berg is one off the best, if not the BEST handling bikes in the world, bar none.
You must have your head in the sand.
Have you not read any of the posts in this forum or any of the articals in any of the bike mags.
Where have you been. Ide like to know where you get your information from.
As I said before the 570 Berg is in a class of its own the best bike I have ever riden.

PM suhoi27

I regard the handling of the 570 as one of it's strong points! It's superb. If you could get a test ride on one I'm sure you'd be convinced.

dbman said:

I was sold on the berg until I found some complaints on how it felt tippy and sometimes difficult to handle when climbing.

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Who is telling you that?
How fast are we going when this "tippy" bit happens climbing? 1st gear idling, second gear high reving? 3rd gear high reving?
Been tipped off a borrowed 04 WR450F more than my FE570. So I am a bit confused (wouldn't be the first time for me to be confused though :? ).
You are only going to get one eyed Husaberg lovers answering on here :wink:

Thanks for all the info. The posts I read about the 570's handling were on general forums where there were many different bike brands. I know this is husaberg central so I figured there would be only positive feed back and that is good. I was hoping to hear from some that may have seen great benefits from reworking the suspension for a heavier rider.

thanks again

Without a doubt you need to respring the new Bergs for your weight, without doing that its hard to realize the true handling potential of these bikes. If anyone has ever ridden one of these bikes without respringing the bike for their weight and thought it handled awesome; you haven't seen anything yet! Once set up for your weight so that the suspension can ride up higher in the stroke like its suppose too! Look out! :bounce3:

It handles just fine in the singletrack. I just came back from riding muddy rutted technical singletrack in GA. My 2010 570 handles great. My ONLY issue with the bike at all right now is it is very heavy to pick up. I ended up with it upside down in a muddy ravine with an extra 20lbs of mud on it and it was all I could do to get it back up on the wheels. If it was 40lbs lighter it wouldn't have a flaw.

MrSmooth said:

My ONLY issue with the bike at all right now is it is very heavy to pick up. I ended up with it upside down in a muddy ravine with an extra 20lbs of mud on it and it was all I could do to get it back up on the wheels. If it was 40lbs lighter it wouldn't have a flaw.

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That's not so much a flaw, more the nature of the beast. After all, It's a 570cc 4 stroke. If it were 40lbs lighter it'd be a 200c 2 smoke. The built in grab handles make lifting the rear end a breeze compared to many other big 4strokes.

this is a link to my racing season on the 570 - an '09. I tell it how it is.

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regards

Taffy

dbman said:

Thanks for all the info. The posts I read about the 570's handling were on general forums where there were many different bike brands. I know this is husaberg central so I figured there would be only positive feed back and that is good. I was hoping to hear from some that may have seen great benefits from reworking the suspension for a heavier rider.

thanks again

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HI Dbman,

There is one thing I would like to point out about this site, if there is a problem with the bikes you will see it here, not just all good.

That being said, I would echo jbrown's post by saying that you definitely need to set the suspension up for your weight (which so far you have not mentioned) as there is a night and day difference between a bike with the wrong spring rates on it.

Also, you may have read on other sites and in the usual dirt bike rags, that even though the bike weighs the same as it's KTM brother, it does feel heavier when pushing it around, unloading it from the truck etc..... What is only sometimes mentioned, is that once the bike starts to move, it feels way lighter than all the other bikes due to the centralized rotating mass. In motion, no matter how slow, the bike feels more like a 250 two stroke as far as flickability, it's really quite amazing how agile the bikes are.

And with the higher CG, once the bike is laid over into a turn, it doesn't want to stand up like the normally laid out engined dirt bike. However, since the rotating mass is centralized, you can go from full left lean to full right lean with little more than a thought to do so.

As mentioned before, the proper set up is key. These bikes, once set up properly, respond very well to small changes in shock spring pre-load, fork spring pre-load (if you get an 0 10 FE), clicker adjustments, etc.... I will make a shameless plug here and say that I am doing suspension for these bikes now and feel that I have the superior set up for these bikes to realize their full potential.

That being said, another fine trait of the 570 is the use of the map switch. There is the stocker, or the easier one to use available from 70 Degree Racing. The three different maps give the 570 a great range of power characteristic options, set in the low or traction mode, the motor still makes great torque, but, doesn't spin up like it will in aggressive mode. When I ride single track, I just leave mine in the low or soft map and it works great.

70 Degree Racing also makes a sub frame fuel tank that adds another gallon of fuel to the bike by replacing the stock sub frame. See the review in this months Dirt Rider magazine, or go to our home page 70degreeracing.com.

You can't go wrong with the 570 for an all around dirt bike. EFI-so it runs the same no matter the altitude or temperature, electric start, etc......

Hey Fellas,

I've been agonizing over what to buy and researching the whole debate of FE570 vs. 530 EXC, vs. whatever for a few months.
I just pulled the trigger on a 2010 FE 570. I literally bought it over the phone without ever having seen one! Never even seen a Berg before!

So far I am thoroughly impressed. FIrst off, I don't understand what people are talking about when they say this bike feels heavier than the KTM sitting still. I can easily grab the side handle and lift the rear off the ground with one hand, and I'm not he-man or anything. My last bike was an 07 CR250 and I don't find the Berg any harder to maneuver around.
I definitely get the 'when you're moving it's lighter' thing though. It seriously doesn't feel a lot different than the CR250 doing tight turns, etc. Except for the fact that it's a lot easier to drive, lots smoother, obviously loads more torque than the CR, more flywheel, etc. In fact I find it easier to turn tight because of that, it's a very forgiving bike, whereas some other bikes aren't if you don't have good throttle control.
Oh and power... wow, I'm impressed. I'm a pretty good tuner, but this bike has made me think there was something wrong with my CR.. This thing puts the power to the ground and it's got lots left over. I can't even imagine wanting any more, and I'm an acceleration junkie.

Just my two cents. I have pilaged every forum over the past few months, so I figure I should give back a bit.

WELCOME! from a fellow Husaberg newbie. I too was contemplating a 530EXC and only considered a 570 after missing out on a late 2010 deal KTM had on at the time. The dealer (KTM & Husa) gave me the heads up on the latest bikes and also informed me of a forthcoming deal on 2010 Husa's. Did loads of research and finally made my purchase in early December. Despite 1 or 2 minor niggles I'm now over the moon with the bikes performance offroad. Did a few of the 'standard' mods on mine before riding, like fan kit, exhaust wrap, tank shielding, guards etc. as the dealer was giving a discount on any parts bought with the bike. At the moment the only very small fly in a very large vat of ointment is a noisy chain tensioner so I've just ordered a replacemant manual tensioner.

I'm with you on the power. Loads available, very controllable (especially with the MAP switch) making the bike very tractable.

I there new berger lover. I too have a 570 2011 and love it. In standed trim my bike was quicker in a drag than a 530. Heaps more response too. The grab handles are no good when bogged in mud or doing lots of lifting over logs due to only getting finger tips in there. The berg feels better to ride but the Kato is skinner. But I would take mine any day over the Katoom.

I think it has all been said!

I weigh around 120kg's with gear on. I set up suspension to suit from day 1. I'm no Enduro rocket by any stretch, but I have had enough bikes over 40 odd years of riding to have a rough idea of what feels good..........................compared to what feels unbelievably great!

The 570 Berg is by far the best handling bike I have ever ridden. Simply change the mapping to suit conditions, slow tight S/T, rocks, mud, grass track, hills (big ones).....nothing fazes this bike! Open fire trails (set map to aggressive) and you can't get the smile of your face. For a bit of overkill I added a Scotts damper to eliminate any hint of vagueness at the front end at speed in loose surfaces. Not even sure it was required, but the Berg handles like it's on rails in pretty much any conditions, and very forgiving, no matter how stupid the rider error!!!

Get the suspension done to suit your weight and you have the ultimate all round bike on the market today IMHO anyway.


Oh yea............................I love my Berg.

well hear is my take on it I whent in to get a new 530 last November and took a spin on a 570 well do I need to say more all I have done if play with the clickers add flex bars and a few outher small things I ride alot of desert and single track and hands down this is the best all around bike I have ever had shure it's heaver than a my 2 smoker in the tight stuff but you do not notice it now if I could just had the cash for another one so I could keep my 17 year old off it