Prices for Husabergs here in The Netherlands are around EUR 9-10,000 best I know, which would equate to around $13,000. Much of the higher-than-US prices is accounted for because of taxes though. So Husabergs have always been cheaper in the US than here due to sales tax differences, but the gap is getting smaller due to the low dollar rate vs the euro. The prices are relatively high for these bikes due to the small volume. I mean, when I look for a used Husaberg here in Holland there are maybe 10 around. But Yamaha's - about 1,000.
Johnf3 said:
I'm well aware of what is happening in the economy as I'm a business owner but if you think a 3k price increase in one year isn't a little much well god bless ya.
I understand the whole dollar euro thing but even in the best case scenario Bergs will be at least a $1000.00 more then KTMs and Huskies.Are they not both in the same boat with the exchange rate?
I'm also well aware of what they cost back in the day in relation to the other brands and I guess it's back to exclusivity as they were back then.This year and the past couple at least price wise they were in line with the mainstream offerings and it's a shame that the will no longer be.
This will in no way help used bike pricing on Bergs or any others.The used market for dirt bikes sucks.The rise in prices has done nothing across the board but kill the US economy and especially the non essential parts of it such as our toys.
Joined Jun 2004
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australia
prices
looks like the australian cost seems too high....given parity with the us dollar the prices should have fallen this year. I think you will be paying for the hype of the new bike. With ktm buying power and the strength of the aust dollar $10,000 on road sounds generous. I note for example the cost of boots (eg alpine stars) in the us compared to the price in australia. When the aust dollar was 50 or 50 cents to the us you could see the reason for the price difference. I think the price is based on the concept that prices always go up as oppossed the true cost. I recall when aus dollar was 80 us cents the cost of bikes was around 9-9 thousand. I do tend to watch these prices and the cost in pounds in the UK. anyway if you want one you will pay
looks like the australian cost seems too high....given parity with the us dollar the prices should have fallen this year. I think you will be paying for the hype of the new bike. With ktm buying power and the strength of the aust dollar $10,000 on road sounds generous. I note for example the cost of boots (eg alpine stars) in the us compared to the price in australia. When the aust dollar was 50 or 50 cents to the us you could see the reason for the price difference. I think the price is based on the concept that prices always go up as oppossed the true cost. I recall when aus dollar was 80 us cents the cost of bikes was around 9-9 thousand. I do tend to watch these prices and the cost in pounds in the UK. anyway if you want one you will pay
RE: prices
I can see your point but.....The USA models do not have ADR requirements we need in Australia indicator kits, horn, mirrors etc. Also all the prices you see in the USA DO NOT include tax, title and all the charges that get tacked on by the dealer.They also have different tax rates in each state where as in Australia we have GST a federal tax that has to included in retail prices. So when you do the maths we are not really that bad off.
And like you say "If you want one you will pay". I can't wait for mine!
Best Regards
Sutto
I can see your point but.....The USA models do not have ADR requirements we need in Australia indicator kits, horn, mirrors etc. Also all the prices you see in the USA DO NOT include tax, title and all the charges that get tacked on by the dealer.They also have different tax rates in each state where as in Australia we have GST a federal tax that has to included in retail prices. So when you do the maths we are not really that bad off.
And like you say "If you want one you will pay". I can't wait for mine!
Best Regards
Sutto
Joined Oct 2005
935 Posts | 21+
Texas
vntgmx said:
I understand what YOU paid for your '08 on the fair market, but comparing list price between the '09's and '08's is apples and oranges, the bikes are so different.
The USA list price on the 2009 KTM 530 exc, is 9,498.00. Yes, I know it is street legal. The other KTM 4 strokes are right around 9K list. They are the basically the same as last year's models.
For the last couple of years, all you heard on this board was how Husabergs hadn't changed since forever, and they have been passed by. So, Husaberg steps up to the plate with innovation true to their roots for 2009.
Now, they are just too expensive.
Please. The Chinese are in the dirt bike market now. Ther's plenty of choices out there.
innovatinn ???? a ktm engine on a 70 degree slant....
The new Frame is the innovation, even if it is sort of borrowed from BMW...
The new Frame is the innovation, even if it is sort of borrowed from BMW...
Joined Dec 2005
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australia
im sure i said it before ... just wait till they have been in the market for a while . the problems will be for all to know and the prices will fall
whosahberg said:
Fall enough for me to buy a secondhandy 570 cheap to turn into a Motard. UUUUEEEEWWWW
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The pricing will be in line with the European competition for 09.
When and if, the BMW ever shows up it will be a $9500 bike as well. I dont know what 09 Husky pricing will be like, but once BMW finds out what KTM is pricing their 09s at, you know the Huskys will be going way up as well.
As already mentioned, TM, Sherco and to a point Gas Gas are already getting squeezed right out of the US market because of the Euro.
When and if, the BMW ever shows up it will be a $9500 bike as well. I dont know what 09 Husky pricing will be like, but once BMW finds out what KTM is pricing their 09s at, you know the Huskys will be going way up as well.
As already mentioned, TM, Sherco and to a point Gas Gas are already getting squeezed right out of the US market because of the Euro.
This is a hard thread for me to read. I am not complaining about pricing. More about the fact that my wedges have not kept up. I guess that is the product of inflation.
Given that if the berg was the only bike that I wanted, the pricing would not be out of line. But I want/need many bikes. That is where the problem is.
Given that if the berg was the only bike that I wanted, the pricing would not be out of line. But I want/need many bikes. That is where the problem is.
Re: RE: prices
Here in the Peoples Replublik of Kaleefornia you basically add on 10% to cover tax, license and registration. That will bring the price of the 570 up to 11,220 out the door. Tack on another 600-700 for suspension set up and a bash plate and you're right at 12,000. Hey, ferrari's aren't cheap either!!
Sutto's said:
Here in the Peoples Replublik of Kaleefornia you basically add on 10% to cover tax, license and registration. That will bring the price of the 570 up to 11,220 out the door. Tack on another 600-700 for suspension set up and a bash plate and you're right at 12,000. Hey, ferrari's aren't cheap either!!
Re: RE: Re: 2009 US Pricing
yes sotosberg..those €€ prices are exactly the prices we have here in italy and i suppose all over europe.
so..you people over the ocean stop whining about 09 and be happy for being able to get a 08 with a 5000$ and more discount
sotosberg said:
yes sotosberg..those €€ prices are exactly the prices we have here in italy and i suppose all over europe.
so..you people over the ocean stop whining about 09 and be happy for being able to get a 08 with a 5000$ and more discount
RE: Re: RE: Re: 2009 US Pricing
well this side with our exchange rate; Rand Dollar is 7.91 and Rand Euro is 12.3, I would guess The new Berg would cost between R114 000 - R 115 000, But I heard it would be around R95 000(dunno why, maybe because of the diff taxes etc..). But possibly a good measure to give you an idea on the cost of ownership compared to say food costs, would be a Mcdonalds burger meal (quarter pounder, large chips and a coke = R26)
R114 000- 4384 mickey d meals
R95 000 - 3653 meals
R85 000 - 3269 meals (maybe)
could anyone else do similar conversion?
well this side with our exchange rate; Rand Dollar is 7.91 and Rand Euro is 12.3, I would guess The new Berg would cost between R114 000 - R 115 000, But I heard it would be around R95 000(dunno why, maybe because of the diff taxes etc..). But possibly a good measure to give you an idea on the cost of ownership compared to say food costs, would be a Mcdonalds burger meal (quarter pounder, large chips and a coke = R26)
R114 000- 4384 mickey d meals
R95 000 - 3653 meals
R85 000 - 3269 meals (maybe)
could anyone else do similar conversion?
I'ts hard to swallow a price increase on anything when it is perceived to be because of economic conditions. It is easier to handle when the increase is sold as new model refinements. In the case of the FE450, my records indicate that there will be a $1123.00 dollar increase in the Dealer cost from 08 to 09. To me this is not out of line at all considering the changes in those two bikes IE: EFI, new chassis. I understand the disappointment surrounding the pricing, but keep in mind the pricing is either good or bad by comparison. The 09 KTM 450XCF will cost a Dealer $635.00 less than the 09 FE450. Even though it's an awesome bike, look at how much more bike you get with the Husaberg. Whoever made the decision to tell people that the price increases are due to the devaluation of the U.S Dollar should loose his Job. That was just stupid IMO.
Mark
Mark
Joined Apr 2004
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Arizona
Most imported commodities are now higher priced due to a weaker dollar and US companies that export are thriving because of this. Weak currency, high gold pricing, low interest rates, and rampant inflation in an economy are like having Blood Pressure readings of 185 over 155. They are not running feed the pig commercials for nothing.
dan
forgot to mention rising unemployment
dan
forgot to mention rising unemployment
Joined Mar 2006
39 Posts | 0+
Mojave Desert
whosahberg said:
Amen brother-
I was just looking at the receipt for my 05 FE550: rounded down to $6,300 OTD! Originally, that's what sold me on the Berg. Honda CRF450's were going for $7,200 at the time. Now having ridden both, I'm re-upping with Husaberg. But I'll wait for stability and STREET LEGAL!
Cheers
Tom
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