09 fe 570 using oil?

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Hey all, did a oil change on my berg at 9 hrs, filter screens ect.. During a pre ride inspection tonight for the morning i noticed my oil level was quite low, i added about an extra 300ml! im 99.9% the oil level was spot on at 9 hrs, it now now has 10 hrs, so in 1 hr something weird has gone on, coolant is sweet, no smoke or smell, plug looked sweet and bike still runs crisp as.. I didnt notice much oil use during run in. I have just come of motor x mineral and gone to synthetic.. Any help ? cheers
 
I think the owners manual says you should run the bike before you check the oil level...
 
Not sure why but my 2010 FE570 takes around 1.6L and the Owners Manual says 1.35L. The oil is about 5mm below the top of the little glass window.
 
hindenburg said:
1.35 ltr, bike was ran before check..

And where is the level in the sight glass? I think the manual shows mid to 3/4 up the glass.

Also, did you change the filter by any chance?
 
Maybe 1.6L of oil is a little too much once it settles. There is only a few millimetres now:
Thanks for correcting me in the PM Dale.
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Yes i had changed filter as well, i submerse the filter before instalation but it must still need a little more to have it at 3/4 on the sight glass. The oil level has stayed the same (not used any) after a ride this morning so must be all good, i think i fretted a little last night.. Thanks for your help but its always nice to have prompt acurate advice on issues like this :wink:
 
Hindenburg: Glad to see that your motor is NOT using any oil.

Davo: You're welcome and thanks for posting that picture. Your oil level in that picture is actually either right at the upper limit, or above it.

The shop manual shows the sight glass and gives this range: The bottom or minimum level of oil is right in the middle of the sight glass. The upper limit is 10mm above the middle of the sight glass.

The shop manual also states that the engine level should be checked COLD.

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I learned a lesson about this recently. I was draining the oil and just adding in the 1350cc's of oil that the book said, and I should have know better from my experiences with the last generation of motors and the TSB that came out about that motor's engine oil level.

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The problem I was having with my 09 was that when I would start it up after it had sat for a while I would get a puff of blue smoke out the exhaust. I initially put this down to a valve stem seal that was letting a little oil by. My friend Jeff had told me that he could smell just a bit of oil when he was following me. There was no noticeable/measurable oil loss so I just put it down to a little wear on an motor with 100 hours and not something to worry about.

I asked my KTM mechanic friend, you might remember him from previous posts I've made where others accused him of lying about the cam chain tensioner? Which I've still had no problem with after 100 hours....alas I digress.

He told me that one thing that will happen if you run too much oil is that the oil will push past the oil ring, which can lead to all kinds of weird things happening. I had told him how I was filing the motor with oil, and his comment was that the CC's of oil listed in the book is the capacity of the motor's sump to hold oil. However, it is very difficult to get all the oil out of the motor, some is held in with the filter, and on the old motors there would always be some in the crank area behind the reed. If anyone remembers there was a drill about draining the oil, and then leaning the bike over slightly to the left and kicking it through several times to get the rest of the oil out of the crank area.

After asking me how much this new motor holds, his advice was to put in about 1000cc's or 1 liter how ever you want to look at it, and let that settle out for a bit then add small amounts incrementally until.........you get within range on the sight glass.

What I have found on my 09 motor is that it only needs 1150-1200cc's for a refill after an oil change to have it in the range specified in the manual. WITHOUT A FILTER SERVICE. On my 04 it only needed 850cc's after an oil change to keep it in range of the TSB.

The result for me was there is no longer a puff of blue smoke at start up after it has been sitting, and my friend Jeff and I have not been riding since, so I don't know if the burning oil smell is gone.

And FYI. The new motor still uses a reed system to keep the crank area free from oil and windage induced losses. The new reed location, or diaphragm as it is now called is in the bottom back corner of the crank area where the oil delivered to the mains, and the big end bearing is blown back into the transmission right about 3'o clock on the main shaft.
 

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