Berg just don't wanna go where I point. What am I missing?

blistovmhz · May 15, 2022

2010 fe450. Changed tires a few times, changed for heavier and lighter spring rate, tried increasing and decreasing comp and rebound damping, nothing seems to help. For most conditions I love the handling, but here in the PNW, we have a ton of FSR's consisting entirely of 4-8" diameter gravel, and my bike just hates it, and I can't figure out why. Darts all over the place. Complete amateur riders on garbage DR200's with blown out shocks, are able to ride faster and safter on this stuff than I can with the Berg.
I tried the girls 2013 TE310, and same thing. Dramatically easier to point and shoot in this larger gravel. Mine just shoots the front end out from under me.
What am I missing?

Rainerio · May 15, 2022

Just a guess have you tried moving the fork tubes up or down ? Try down first brings the front end up. I don’t think I have to tell you this but are front forks aligned with the front axle no binding ?

rikschipp · May 20, 2022

Also check your rear sag- so many people run too much sag to try and get the seat down, so you are effectively taking weight OFF the front, making it steer like sh*t. If you want it to steer sharp, run about 90- 100mm sag. Too much rebound on the rear will do the same, especially if you're a sit down rider.
Are you getting full front stroke? As Rainerio says, binding will make it feel spiky and crap. Try a cable tie around the tube, see where it ends up after a ride, riding in rocks with big hits should see you using most of your travel.
What you are looking for ideally is balanced suspension- the feeling of even movement front and rear- try riding over a small drop off on flat ground and take notice of the reaction- it should be feel even front then rear.
Rik

Taffy · May 20, 2022

blistovmhz said:
2010 fe450. Changed tires a few times, changed for heavier and lighter spring rate, tried increasing and decreasing comp and rebound damping, nothing seems to help. For most conditions I love the handling, but here in the PNW, we have a ton of FSR's consisting entirely of 4-8" diameter gravel, and my bike just hates it, and I can't figure out why. Darts all over the place. Complete amateur riders on garbage DR200's with blown out shocks, are able to ride faster and safter on this stuff than I can with the Berg.
I tried the girls 2013 TE310, and same thing. Dramatically easier to point and shoot in this larger gravel. Mine just shoots the front end out from under me.
What am I missing?

you need triple clamps with more offset. this gives you less trail.

if I hold the saddle of a unicycle and you kicked the rim at 6 o clock there would be no turning reaction. but if you kicked a supermarket trolley front wheel at the rim it would fly around in a circle. on your bike, you ride with handlebars at the top of that supermarket trolley front axle.

the greater the trail, the easier it is for the rocks to kick the wheel left and right and you can't fight it.

get a set of 22mm offset TCs off a Husaberg FE 2003-2008.

there's even a case for4 changing them to 24mm one day...

Taffy

Berg just don't wanna go where I point. What am I missing?

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